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we've got a problem. I went looking for videos of democrats with valid arguments that I may not be aware of, or havnet heard. what i found was a mob of people repeating delusional alarmism, wild conspiracies, and completely unhinged claims.

i want to believe there are some grounded people out there with differing opinions to consider, but im not finding many. they all look completely insane. like out of control Karens. and that is a problem because the only outcome of not being able to find common ground is armed conflict. if you can see other end points, im happy to consider them, but from what i am seeing kinetic civil war in the US is an inevitability.

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Eric FJ 🪬⚡️ 9mo ago

Luckily only one side is armed

Mephi 9mo ago

I have never met a rational lefty.

It's rare enough to find one that can articulate their perspective, let alone hear and understand and articulate their issue with someone else's.

twofish 9mo ago

I have, but he seemed to be entrenched in a collectivist mindset. Of course so are the people I know on the right. It is a pendulum between those two after all.

kepford 9mo ago

I have felt this for a while. There seems to be little desire to understand or empathize. There are at least two cultures and they seem to only want to win and use their power over the other. It's not good. But it didn't happen over night. Been building for my whole life.

Sarah⚡️ 9mo ago

I went looking for good democrats arguments too and I found out that I will be gazed in RFK reeducation camp , arrested if I ever get an ectopic pregnancy , I need to stock up on vaccines because there wouldn’t be any , fluoride is good for me and they’re removing it to kill me , trump legalized segregation in the constitution, and he stole all my money to get out of some casino bankruptcy

atyh 9mo ago

it’s disturbing. were not in the area of differing opinions on the legal applications of constitutional law anymore. and there is no logic and reason to appeal to, to find common ground.

a source familiar with the matter 9mo ago

The political left has been poly-logical (ie non logical; insisting that different groups reason differently) for centuries

Karl Marx insisted that the logic of the middle class differed from the logic of the lower class

Modern Marxists insist that blacks reason differently than whites, men differently from women (and so on for every identity group)

Sarah⚡️ 9mo ago

There is so many valid arguments they could be making , yet no one is mentioning them , they’re very focussed on scoring petty points , enflaming people, and on orchestrating situations to say I told you so , instead of doing their job

Many serious people even dropped long bipartisan bills they’ve been working on , because they happen to align with what the current administration is trying to achieve , just to save optics

atyh 9mo ago

im not entirely convinced this isnt being driven in part by warehouses in China with 1000 phones. but even if that is true, they are appealing to people willing and ready to agree with what they are pushing.

Sarah⚡️ 9mo ago

It mainly spreads from TikTok , the main influencers are completely compromised and use all kind of tactics to cause mass hysteria

People send me links of a specific one who posts day and night every 5 min a new video that will send you into fight or flight mode , everybody has been getting updates from him , the language he uses is very discreetly manipulative

Look up “aaron parnas” on tiktok or IG , I had so many people send me his links while in full panic mode and I had to break it down for them to calm them , curious about your thought

kepford 9mo ago

I mean the Democrat leadership is doing a good job of coming up with lame arguments on their own.

kepford 9mo ago

Honestly it's been this way for over 20 years. The average man just wants his way. That's where it starts. There has been almost no interest in unstanding the law and Constitution for decades. What changed was a man actually pushed against the tide of left movement so now the gloves are coming off.

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BitcoinJujitsu 9mo ago

Don't forget he will steal your social security and medicaid (which he has never said but will prob collapse on its own)

Salty Cracker 9mo ago

Yes, you are correct.

One side responds to feelings, and the other responds to reality.

David in TN 9mo ago

I've had rational conversations with lefties, in person, and was surprised by a similar appreciation for libertarianism and small government, though for different reasons. Also had irrational conversations with conservatives, things like "DEI means affirmative action; hiring unqualified unskilled people just because of their protected status" and conservatives that can't think logically about Trump's mistakes. We all have a blindspot sometimes, and don't always know it.

₿oniz23⚡️🏴‍☠️🇮🇹 9mo ago

Hi atyh 😉🏴‍☠️🤟 The scariest part is how normalized the insanity has become on both sides. But I’m not sure civil war is inevitable just feels that way when the loudest, most extreme voices drown out everyone else. Maybe it’s time we all stop listening to screamers and seek the ones who speak with humility.

Greysack The Mildly Retarded 9mo ago

I've been saying this for a very long time. Politics is a polite stand-in for open warfare. The ideal situation is that all sides want to be in the game and agree to the rules and to compromise for the sake of continuing it for the sake of peace. If one side were to somehow "win" or cheat at the game and disenfranchise the others, there is no incentive to continue the game. We then return to nature's default game; violence.

In the US, there is a situation where one side has begun down the path of "fuck whitey" as it's primary political goal and has pretty obviously violated the rules of the game in multiple ways to this end. Obviously, this position leaves zero room for compromise or incentive to continue playing; ergo the inevitable end of the game.

It's really just a matter of time, as I doubt they intend to suddenly start liking white people after decades of propaganda. Buy ammo while it's cheap.