The more I actually try to use Bitcoin Lightning, the more I hate it. I just want to send and receive digital shekels. All of this shit about channels, inbound/outbound liquidity, etc is a pain in the ass and gets between me and what I want. The fact that channels can arbitrarily get closed, leaving money in limbo for days is even more shit.

AlbyHub closed a new channel I opened after 13 fucking minutes... now I need to fund another one if I want my wallet to work, but I can't the funds in AlbyHub because they're too few and stuck in closed channels anyway.

I have an embedded node Zeus wallet on a phone with enough sats to do the job, but oh no! The channel's stuck as Inactive, and even if it does activate properly, there's too many zombie channels so any attempt at payment times out and goes nowhere.

I won't pretend Monero hasn't given me headaches and borderline heart attacks in the past, but it's got nothing on this Lightning shit. When it works well it works well, but just one piece out of alignment and it all goes to shit. Lightning fucking sucks, and I'm not willing to pretend it doesn't.

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These are all the same reasons I said fuck that and just use ecash for lightning stuff right now

Both Zeus embedded wallet and AlbyHub use different versions of light wallets. Light wallets are very much work in progress and they won't work great. Don't use light wallets. I've used them both. Left Zeus after 2 channel closures, Alby Hub closed my channel after 26 days. You need to be using a proper LN node. In comparison my BTCPay Server's LND based node has one channel that has been online for the last 96d 7h 50m and it's working great, no channel closures or anything. And I've been using it, I've moved about 0.3 BTC over that single channel back and forth.

Monero fixes this 😂

Aaaand mute. Gtfo 🖕🏿

maybe you shouldn't be so hostile about something you don't understand...?

just saying

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BCH may work

I heard people criticizing it and their main points are:

1. hashrate isn't close to BTC's

2. blocks barely fill up (100kb blocks)

but these don't invalidate the technology, they just reflect its current state

I think it just comes down to marketing

I prefer BCH to BT, is far close to the original conception, but the problem is BCH use the same algo of BTC so 51% attack is too easy

Yeah, but whatever. Let’s keep using BTC until a government messes up with their custodial Lightning solution and steals from its people. Then they'll want to use BCH.

Maybe BTC will upgrade the block max weights, who knows.

The mining centralisation, KYC and transparent ledger is a mess, we the people should use Monero or something like that,, BCH have cashshuffle wich I like but there is no protection against ASIC wich is a big problem

No privacy

What was your problem with Monero? Used from years and never had any problem

Aqua Wallet is open source, accepts lightning, and transfers it to liquid automatically. Regarding technology that just works, ive never had a failed transaction with liquid network. I've had plenty with lightning and monero. If I could make a suggestion with lightning, it would be to start out with something easier such as Phoenix wallet. Literally the best lightning experience compared to the times I lost ungodly amounts of sats creating lightning channels through umbrel or zeus.

I had the same issues with zeus, I closed all my channels and from now on if I have to be forced to use LN I will just use wallet of satoshi. But I will push more than ever to use #XMR as my main payments driver.

Well it's banking with 100% reserves, right? No wonder it sucks. Correct me if my analysis is wrong...

Works only in a custodial way. No need for that.

I've been using non custodial for years.

Phoenix wallet is a great first step. After that, start9 + Zeus is the ultimate reliable setup.

Go on… what’s that set up like

i have 2 channels open that i’ve never had issues with. for personal payments i have private channels. public channels are another beast on their own

tell me more about your private setup! Trying to wrap my head around this stuff

depends on what you want to do. personally i just need some liquidity to buy bitcoin goods, vpns, etc. what are your goals?

I’m wanting to run a small web shop to receive payments off chain. The dollar amounts would range from $1 - $1000 so nothing crazy. Also the ability to send some but mostly for the prior

Have you heard of the nodestrich telegram channel? I think nostr:npub1aeh2zw4elewy5682lxc6xnlqzjnxksq303gwu2npfaxd49vmde6qcq4nwx runs it. They’ll be able to help you way more than me.

Yep, I am. I got to meet him last weekend actually great guy

Start9 with bitcoin core and LND installed. Then c9nfigured my Zeus wallet on my phone to connect to the LND node via Tor. Easy-peazy.

Using Orbot, right?

Nope. I don't even know what that is.

How are you connecting to your node via Zeus on tor then? What is this voodoo

Apple?

Phoenix has never ever gave a problem. For me is the best match.

What headaches can you possibly have?

I've been using it for years without flaws.