Hey! Totally understand the concern. Here’s some context:

We recently removed the Lightning feature from the app to stay focused on its core mission: secure, self-custodial Bitcoin savings. Lightning is still a promising technology, but the current self-custodial experience just wasn’t reliable enough for our users. We’re keeping an eye on it and plan to revisit it once it matures.

As for the face scan, it’s part of our effort to comply with the new EU regulation DORA (Digital Operational Resilience Act). To protect users from fraud and identity theft, we now require biometric verification, but we do this WITHOUT storing any biometric data.

We use Keyless, a privacy-preserving solution that creates a cryptographic key using your facial scan locally on your device. That data is NEVER stored by us or anywhere else )not on our servers, not in the cloud). It’s just a way to verify that you are you, while keeping your privacy intact.

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I'm sorry you have to comply with the EU.

They should move outside eu

WE should move out.

But are you ready to surrender this land to Brussels?

Yeah guess so

Yeah must admit back when I was using it a year ago, the Ln function was really unreliable. Can’t blame. But the UE compliance and regulation is getting ridiculous. Sadge.

Thanks for your reply, if this is now mandatory for real then EU has fallen. Do other exchanges have implemented this as well?

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Idk, you should ask them :)

However, my message was to point out that although we have to be compliant with the rules, we have chosen the way that protects our users' data

I know it is easy for me to say it and harder for you to do as a business, but we need to find ways around such requirements.

I would not use a btc app which requires me to scan my face. I'd rather use a non EU company over VPN etc.

Ja. Und alle machen mit. Wie die Lemminge…

Peach Bitcoin and Pocket Bitcoin are based in Switzerland and don’t do this shit!

And Relai should work to improve its lightning service instead of simply cancelling it

We had only implemented a third-party service (Breez SDK) within our application. Therefore, we had no direct control over its development

Would that be an excuse? That’s even worse!

BUILD!

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

They came for self custodial lightning and I did say nothing...

Why self custodial lightning, people might opt-in for custodial as well ?

Dora is bullshit. It was never to protect the user. It is to control the finacial institutions and their users and at the same time to protect the large players with the standards nobody can comply, except a few largest.

bullshit-o-meter going strong with this one.

PATRIOT Act vibes.

Yeah, no

“To protect users from fraud and identity theft, we now require biometric verification(...)” 🤡

FUCK OFF with that disgusting gaslighting!

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This is so fiat

D.O.R.A. it's fucking huge, I really like to know which part are you requested to comply. URL for anyone interested: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2022/2554/oj/eng

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Feel free to ask this to privacy@relai.app, as I’m not a lawyer 🙂

The EU is a no-go-zone

Compliance Is Defiance®