Nostr Web Client

This is a really interesting topic. It also bothers me that this relay model relies so much on dns. But there is the .onion option, which makes it a bit better maybe.

Also considering, just from the point of view, that nostr is such a stupid simple protocol, it probably wouldn't be that difficult to use a different model at some point, to piggy back it on some other tech/transport layer at some point. Especially if the need for it comes.

Its one of those things where things just catch on that are "good enough" and reach some network effect instead of the "best" thing.

trev 5mo ago

I'm torn between nostr (or a nostr-style simple protocol) on top of a transport layer P2P network, and a "full stack" solution like pubky.

If you have more thoughts about it, technically or philosophically, let me know.

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krisl 5mo ago

I'm also torn, but I guess lets just wait and see. I have been in the crypto space for long enough to realize that there is no perfect end solution, just an endless flow of new stuff and some things just stick even if they are not the best solution. You can use the perfect solution, but you might be alone there, in the end the value is where the people are.

Just like with bitcoin, I could make a case for some xyz coin being a bitcoin killer and having better tech, more private, faster...etc. But its just screaming into the wind. Network effect is a bitch 😉

But the positive thing is, that even nostr, although not perfect is still 1000x better than traditional social media and maybe total secrecy is not the ideal. Maybe its a good signal for society to see which country blocks nostr relays, then you at least know that that country is shit and you should consider moving out. That is quite a valuable signal in some way. Also it gives countries that are more free an edge, that empowers them with the inflow of citizens, users, revenue from datacenters where people host their relays/other services...etc.

I'm just rambling here, the main point is, that "good enough" usually wins long term, without us knowing or controlling what it will be. right now, even traditional social media is "good enough" since it doesn't censor "that much" yet for it to be a problem that people would talk about. And currently centralized social media is a winner.

Big Bad John 5mo ago

I think the Pubky design actually offers people new powers, otherwise I'd agree that "good enough" is acceptable. I sincerely want people to be able to accomplish anything together and the Semantic Social Graph method, combined with PKDNS unlocks that. I'm less concerned with the hobbyist pocket social media community use case, and more interested in changing how everyone uses the internet to establish a better economy and society :)

krisl 5mo ago

I totally agree, I just got used to not getting stressed if my favorite thing doesn't gain traction and I am happy with good enough, just an immune system I developed through the years 😃 I'm all in on trying out new tech. Any idea how to get the invite code for pubky?