Ah. Thanks for explaining!

I think there’s a lot to unpack here.

Yes, people love a good story. We are wired to act emotionally and irrationally as you point out. This has always been human nature - appeal to emotion not to the rational part of the brain. No surprises there.

Another part of it is the feeing of having contributed to someone’s well being. It makes us feel good thinking we can play a small part in this unfortunate situation. Even if we realize it could be fake. We see this time and again when people try to make a difference when in the zoomed out view you know you’re not really making a dent. It’s the difference to the individual that matters. And a lot of times that requires a leap of faith to do what you think may or may not help, even at the risk of being ripped off. On the upside - you make an impact on someone’s life. On the downside you lose some sats. I really doubt the people who donate don’t understand that it could be a scam - more likely they acknowledge it and look past it anyway. The downside is too small to care about that much. It’s not that people are fools, just choosing to believe they’re told the truth.

I know for me personally I go through that rationale flow. Could this be a scam? No - give. Yes - do I think there’s a chance it’s not? Yes - give, no - move on.

As for developers, many are now being supported by open sats grants so they (and me) are not really working for free. We were just afforded time to work on nostr instead of something else. And yes, many are still doing it on their own dime and should be contributed to a lot more generously - not denying that.

Ultimately, I don’t see any harm in potentially helping someone out at the risk of losing some sats to a scam. In the end it’s up to the individual’s own financial situation, value system and risk analysis to determine what’s right and who am I to fault them for doing something I wouldn’t? We’re all grown ass adults here, let us do as we please.

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This is interesting! While I do believe in ‘benefit of the doubt’, I suppose we all get kicked in the teeth from time to time. I’d love to see crowd funding for devs, but in the meantime, I/we will keep supporting them the best we can!

Defrauding and scamming people is harmful, and unfortunately Nostr is a place where it’s easy to do that. Yes grown adults can do as they please, but harmful behavior such as that should not be encouraged.

Up to the individual to decide if it’s fraud or scam.

No, actually it isn’t.

If you know something, do share. Otherwise it’s speculation.

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Fraud/scams are a form of theft based on deception. In every society such behavior is recognized as unacceptable and wrong. It’s not subjective.

Exactly what a spook would say 👻

The world takes all kinds, and for these new protocols to succeed they must as well. How these new communities deal with these issues will start to define them and their success.

I crown you the master of word twisting 👑

Take my point that what you determine to be fraud is perhaps not fraud and twist it into fraud = bad and saying otherwise = wrong.

Dude, I don’t have time for this. Enjoy.

Not twisting your words. Just having a discussion and you don’t like being disagreed with. 🤷‍♂️ Deciding who you feel comfortable giving money to is total subjective and up to the individual. But whether or not the person you’re giving to is being fraudulent in their approach is not subjective, even if you feel good about giving them money at the time. Anyway, my original point is not to debate the definition of fraud, but that Nostr is better off if flagrant panhandling and e-begging is not encouraged.