So how does this new Umbrel home server compare against Start9?
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They're both stupid expensive. Start9 even more so.
It seems you can make it for half the price (just a quick glance)
Yeah dunno who their target is? Rich bitcoiners who can't be bothered to install their own ssd and os?
None of my friends will or can afford to spend time to learn about building their own homeserver, but most of them see the benefit of controlling their own data. These solutions will definitely help people to adopt this stuff. Doesn’t mean I agree that it’s pretty expensive.
Good to have options!
I guess, I dunno I’m jaded. my immediate circle have told me on more than one occasion that “yeah I know I have no privacy I’ve accepted it”
Yeah until they touch the stove.. I just don’t bother anymore.
Same with bitcoin.. most friends rather lose buying power at 15% year over year than buying 10 dollars a month worth of bitcoin. Craziest argument for not buying bitcoin I heard was that you should not make money with money.. We will hear back from them in about a year I expect.
I've repeated the inflation/destruction of purchasing power argument ad nauseam with all my friends and family, and not one of them has bought BTC.
They say I can't be right because "it fell by 70%", so even if they understand the implications of infinite printing (which most just don't, to begin with) they say BTC can't be trusted.
Hardware seems to be similar , software is the main thing that sets them apart, I run both and I prefer StartOS
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Yeah, I lean toward Start9 because it seems to be more robust, based on the opinions I read (I couldn't judge, I lack the tech knowledge).
The common opinion seems to be that Umbrel is just an aggregator of apps that "just works" - until it doesn't, and then you're fucked. As opposed to an actual platform.
Yup, I really like the backup part of Start OS and it’s very good in showing dependencies between apps / services. For example the dependencies between the Lightning node and the bitcoin node. The UI from umbrel looks awesome though and they have a lot of apps but the basics from Start OS are just better in my opinion. Check the #[3] Nostr account , they have posted a comparison (probably a bit biased but still pretty objective)