you're involved in it as soon as you're aware it is happening and not doing anything about it. not specific to the situation in gaza, just in general.
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That’s not how it works lol
then go ahead and tell me how it works
You’re involved in it if you have a direct effect on its outcome. Simple as that. Witnessing a crime doesn’t make you responsible for the crime. Being aware of a crime doesn’t make you responsible for it.
legally, you could be considered an accomplice. but i dont think we're talking on the legal side, more so the moral. i'll just say sure man, keep living your life not holding people accountable, don't say anything, just let it happen, you'll be fine, similar injustices couldn't happen to you right?
I'm 💯 not involved in a problem on the other side of the planet that began before I was born, sorry. I feel bad for the people involved, but I don't need to feel guilty about every bad thing that happens in the world.
👆 this
"The system, the world, the future gets worse every day that we stay silent about all the injustices we see" - Snowden
It's not about guilt, it's about caring for one another in this cruel world.
You’re doing something about every single injustice going on in the world?
I assume all the ones they see, as the post implied
Hard for you to imagine because you're a piece of shit
You know nothing about me. But sure keep the insults flowing.
You zapped nostr:npub1jk9h2jsa8hjmtm9qlcca942473gnyhuynz5rmgve0dlu6hpeazxqc3lqz7 multiple times for gaslighting me about Digit being dead. That's all I need to know about you
Sadly, you won't stop showing up,
so now I also know:
* You're still not posting enough about Gaza
* You won't stop harassing me
* You're so braindead it's hard for you to even comprehend the simple concept of someone doing something about injustice every chance they get
That's 3 new things I didn't even need to know. I know 400% of all there is worth knowing about you, faggot
How many months have you been following me around about that now? Even though I never interact with you. You could have muted and moved on. Instead you choose to live in this dark void.
If you get offended because I zapped a friend (Ser Sleepy) about a meme, that’s your problem. Not mine. I’m not responsible for your feelings. No one on the internet is. The sooner you learn that the better. The sooner you stop playing the victim the better.
If one of my friends makes a funny meme I will zap it. Nothing you can do about it.
The rest of your note is BS and has nothing to do with the root cause.
My problem, not yours?
It is your problem that you wish I would forget who you are, not mine
If me being on nostr is following you around, then you being on nostr is following me around, right?
And obviously we've both been doing it for the same amount of time, right?
Or are you having paranoid delusions where I actually "follow you around" on nostr?
It is your problem that you're a piece of shit who zapped nostr:npub1jk9h2jsa8hjmtm9qlcca942473gnyhuynz5rmgve0dlu6hpeazxqc3lqz7 multiple times for gaslighting me
It is your problem that you wish I would forget who you are, not mine
If you think it's funny to gaslight me about the woman I love being dead, I might remember you laughing about that, nothing you can do about it you whiny projecting little bitch
And what part of my note was bullshit? The only one bullshitting here is you
this reply is the reason why people would rather just jump straight to insults and i don't blame them for it honestly.
You tell Ryan he should care/do more about Gaza and that there’s injustice everywhere.
I ask you if you’re doing something about all the conflicts and this is your answer.
“If you don’t care about Gaza like I do then you’re the problem, and insulting you is okay”
From my perspective, what makes Israel/Palestine more significant is the land I live in (UK) played a very big part in fucking up the Middle East… and continue to do so. I don’t want to contribute to it. Other issues the UK doesn’t play such a significant role.
Israel is the Benny Hill of counties.
UK played a significant role in fucking up a lot of things in the world. But realistically, you stop paying taxes and then they put you to jail? How is that a good outcome for any UK citizen
Agreed. The best way I’ve found of avoiding paying tax is earning fuck all money.
I appreciate my process is a little flawed…
Same, this is part of why I don't accept zaps
That’s not realistic for most. But if it works for you that’s good at least
It's non participation
It's not actually a flawed strategy, by not making much money you're avoiding symbolic support via taxes but also pragmatic support because you're not contributing too much to the warmonger empire economy
Instead of living your life, improving yourself and your local community, let the troubles of the whole world drag you down, and impoverish yourself. Sounds like a great plan 🤦♂️
Give me 1sec let me put my kids into poverty so I can take care of Gaza. It’s more important
The three dots in my post clearly indicates humour…
But on a serious note, I’ve also family in Lebanon and I give a shit about them as well as family who live close by.
Beirut keeps getting bombed, which I don’t enjoy much.
No issues with you. Always been able to have a reasonable conversation with you
If only you could always be reasonable instead of just selectively depending on who you're talking to
Reading this while on my way to a Lebanese food truck for lunch today 🤙
I'm sorry for your family's situation. There's nothing I can do about it though, so dwelling on it makes no sense. I'll continue to improve myself and my local community. It's all most people can actually do.
I mostly agree re. improving self and locality but I stand by my original point, my country’s government and businesses local to me are directly involved in the killing. To ignore it completely would be a fail from my perspective.
If I were to pay more attention, maybe even post a note of solidarity of Nostr, how would that help people in the middle east? What concrete, real world example can you give me of how that would improve the situation, and make people's lives better? It all seems like virtue signaling.
I'd rather spend that energy on people close to me, who I can help directly.
You're sick with tribalism
Still posting pointless replies in my thread while having me muted but you tell yourself you're the one "improving yourself and your local community"
You could at least post more about the topic on nostr if it's too hard to get away with standing against the funding in the UK
I'm going to be honest here, I couldn't give two fecks what the country has done or not done in the past.
I don't feel guilty for it, any more than I think the Germans, French, Vikings, or Romans should feel guilt for invading us in the past either, and I hold zero grudges against any of them.
What is done is done. We cannot go back, we can only go forward, and unless people digest what that means, we are stuck in a perpetual cycle of hatred and conflict.
If it wasn’t dangerous to opt out of your currency or not pay taxes, then I’d say yeah you are part of the problem. But that’s not the case.
You didn’t answer the question
You say this while spamming my thread, having me muted, not even close to answering my questions
Either you're self awarely using your own hypocrisy to attempt gaslighting, or you're not even self aware of how hypocritical your own gaslighting attempt looks
It's not up to me to carry the weight of the world on my shoulders.
If you pay tax in the USA you are involved…
If you’re in the USA and don’t pay tax, I won’t tell anyone.
Not in the US. Ryan neither
Fair enough, still think it’s worth noting who funds these things.
So what’s the solution for all the us taxpayers?
Start by not filing taxes, like me
Or do what Digit does: make the world so much better, and be so embarrassing for the toxic people you constantly encounter in the US, that meaningless obedience rituals with printed money no longer factor into how any sane person would judge the incredible weight of your impact
Maybe tell their political leaders they think killing kids is a bit shit perhaps?
Here I predominantly focus on not buying Israeli goods. But apps like Pegasus aren’t always opt in
There’s a factory just 5 miles from where I live that supplies parts to the Israeli military. Not my favourite local business to be honest…
Buy some stamps and envelopes to send the factory whatever junk mail you get
You should see the protests Americans have trying to support Gaza. They shut down major streets and a lot get arrested. It doesn’t matter.
A lot of protests here too….
The only time I remember protests/riots working was around the poll tax, which brought down the government of the time. The biggest protests were in the lead up to Gulf War 2, you know when Bush and Blair blew up millions of innocent Iraqis over some shit the Saudis did.
However, sitting back and doing fuck all is pretty weak, if it’s an issue that effects you (I’ve family in Lebanon). Boycotting companies seems pretty logical to me. People like money and I try to stop them getting any of mine.