John Steinbeck once said, that socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
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that credit card swipes so good 💳
The desire for money and assets has been the downfall of how many civilizations. History repeats and echos.
If you are scared of assets, go ahead and zap me a megasat
The reality.. the socialists have been playing the long game for nearly 100 years with the blessing of the elites.
From steinbeck’s wikiquote page: this is disputed … but the remark is very likely a paraphrase from Steinbeck's article "A Primer on the '30s." Esquire (June 1960), p. 85-93:
"Except for the field organizers of strikes, who were pretty tough monkeys and devoted, most of the so-called Communists I met were middle-class, middle-aged people playing a game of dreams. I remember a woman in easy circumstances saying to another even more affluent: 'After the revolution even we will have more, won't we, dear?' Then there was another lover of proletarians who used to raise hell with Sunday picknickers on her property.
"I guess the trouble was that we didn't have any self-admitted proletarians. Everyone was a temporarily embarrassed capitalist. Maybe the Communists so closely questioned by the investigation committees were a danger to America, but the ones I knew — at least they claimed to be Communists — couldn't have disrupted a Sunday-school picnic. Besides they were too busy fighting among themselves."
Americans still have hope that there will one day be rich. But the youth are starting to lose that at the end of the long term debt cycle combined with social media larping / focusing on the anomalies. Btc will help
How will bitcoin help orange pilled commies wanting to be fiat millionaires 🤷♂️
It will demonetize other assets like houses so they can stop crying about how unfair it is .
Then they’ll just cry about how few sats they have.
Communism promotes mediocrity and envy there’s no REAL orange pilled commies, just greedy compulsive gamblers
You must not be on bitcoin twitter
Correct, I have standards
Well I’m not on anymore because the commies took over once it went mainstream in 2021. But to not see it is suspect, might be an orange piller yourself
Twitter is full of suckers and hookers
nostr:note1txawk7256wjmslfmqnn4e0ejuzc22v0a9gqhzcv0hac5fql4z7rsmu5g5g
It’s still the social network with the most Bitcoiners on it. Nostr is galts gulch
In general social networks are more noise than signal. In particular #nostr is permisionless and decentralized. In my opinion all the bitcoiners on other networks are just a bunch of posers and suckers, not worth the attention even they are so many
I agree. Bt used to be filled with signal tho it was a special time
Never was, in centralized houses WE ARE THE PRODUCT. Their very reason of existence is to milk you as a cow.
True in that sense but lots of great people were there
Yup. We wouldn’t have got to nostr without BT. It was a crucial step in the evolution of Bitcoin. Can’t totally rewrite history . It’s all connected
It used to be fantastic, Nostr is the only place now. And will get better. Nostr actually offers real bitcoining. Small scale but the ideas are flowing. Inter app operability, zapping, NWC bitcoin decentralised ecosystem
It will be a reflection of the users, hopefully without external guidance via algorithms and censorship. We will see
Orange pilled commies surely aren’t Bitcoiners Rand0 ? Or are you more comfortable with that 😂
This is accurate.
Whenever I visited the US it always amazed me how the waiter, doorman or garbage men took great pride in their work. Some even introducing themselves as artist, actor or entrepreneur doing a side job.
Always loved that about the Americans.
I suspect we had better elites to emulate, in earlier times in this country. Many came to their position through hard work, and did not begrudge those ‘beneath’ them on the economic ladder. They shared the same culture, beliefs, and in many cases institutions.
I think this started to change, like so much, in the so-called Progressive Era.
Now our elite are decadent and our society is fragmented beyond belief. We are a society in name only.
Would he still say that in 2024?
Did Steinbeck ever see the rise of crony capitalism?
I think everyone needs to pick themselves up by their bootstraps. And I also think that is not a free pass for the corporate overlords.
No such thing as crony capitalism. You are talking about the corruption of Fascism.
Fascistic economics is about mixing gov with corporate. Think DIE initiative and stakeholder responsibility. This leads to deals between corporate and gov which the Left goes around and blames capitalism
That is why the left is spreading victimhood ideology.