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Finally finished this behemoth, there are some interesting concepts but nothing that was really new to me. The casual writing style was very hard for me: asides within asides within asides; lots of "humorous" anecdotes without connection to the point; and an utterly random organization structure. I could not even begin to write a summary outline, and I'm left with the impression that he had violent outbursts every time an editor suggested ways to communicate more clearly. Most bizarre was the author's constant contempt and condescending to his reader, as if a hostile dedicated materialist would ever pick this up 🤣

If anyone is interested in this, don't read it. The author has created an "AI Guy" that can explain the concepts in a fraction of the time.

https://ai-guy.consciousnesshub.org/landing

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n0>1 1mo ago

Are you doing a meditation group on hivetalk?

Kip Ashlynn 1mo ago

I am leading practical sessions with nostr:nprofile1qqsp2j0df0n36xnsagku53vke5x9f3s6afy9cmjwt2x2gcm43jvd6jsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qy08wumn8ghj7mn0wd68yttsw43zuam9d3kx7unyv4ezumn9wshsz8thwden5te0dehhxarj9e3xjarrda5kuetj9eek7cmfv9kz7zm45up 's Flight Club, walking through the Gateway Experience meditations. I think we're going to move it to Signal now. I'm not really publicizing it because I'm new to leading and don't know how well I teach so baby steps.

RedTailHawk 1mo ago

You're doing an excellent job as a leader and facilitator for the practical sessions :)

Also, your post inspired me to ask about an idea that's been floating in mind but I never thought to ask NOSTR devs if it's even possible:

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Kip Ashlynn 1mo ago

🥰 D'aww thanks Red 🥰

It means a lot to me to have a chance to talk about all this stuff 💖

n0>1 1mo ago

I am wanting to do something very similar. Why are you moving to signal? How do I get the invite?

RedTailHawk 1mo ago

It seems to offer the same functionality Hivetalk does but it's encrypted and it's private by default. Since these are essentially meditation sessions, having random interruptions from people popping in could potentially be disruptive. We haven't had that kind of disruption yet, and Hivetalk offers private rooms too, but we already have a Flight Club Signal group so it seemed like a reasonable thing to try next week.

If you want on Signal, DM me your Signal link, we can connect, and then I'll add you to the group.

n0>1 1mo ago

That makes sense. I sent you a DM. I would love to join.

55809c7c... 1mo ago

😥 I hope you didn't fall for the sunk cost fallacy.

Kip Ashlynn 1mo ago

I absolutely did 🤣

Manbyt 1mo ago

I got about half way through, it’s sitting on my shelf. I was thinking I need to pick it up again but haven’t. Maybe I’ll just leave it there, I also haven’t gotten the sense that there is anything new for me in it.

Kip Ashlynn 1mo ago

Yes, if you're a dedicated materialist it might blow your mind. If you're not, then there's not much extra that you can glean from Campbell that isn't better written and explained by Bentov in less than 200 smaller pages 😅

I will say I am glad I stuck it out for the recommendation of Steven Kaufman, who apparently proofs more of this work in detail. That's what I thought I was getting into when I started My Big TOE but that was a false assumption 🤣

Affinity**For*Disobedience 1mo ago

You should have just harked it.

i.e hark.now

Kip Ashlynn 1mo ago 💬 1

I honestly don't trust AI to summarize anything for me. I've experimented with it a bit and when summarizing my own work it often changes things enough that the summary supports an entirely different thesis. When summarizing things like Robert Becker it glosses over what I found most interesting about that work and focused on really basic mainstream things.

I think that's why I do recommend Campbell's AI Guy because it isn't a black box where you put the work to find out what the majority of mediocre thinkers would say about it, rather it's built around his work specifically. So it answers you in a way that Thomas Campbell himself would answer 99.99% of the time (his words).

Affinity**For*Disobedience 1mo ago

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I completely emphasize with your deep skepticism of AI summarization basically I've built hark. now as a side project because all existing Solutions were so bad.

The core issue is that summarizing a book with a common AI chatbot like ChatGPT or Grok, it will just spit out a 5 minute summary for 8 hours of content (typical reading time of an average book), and strip it completely of its style and essence.

What I built with Hark is a different approach.

First we aim for a 12:1 ratio, this means that to summarize 8 hours of reading, the summary is still 45 minute of reading, it's still somewhat of a deep dive and requires effort and commitment to read through.

Secondly it doesn't "dumb down" the content. It aims to faithfully incorporate the user's style, tone, vocabulary into the summary so that you get the feel of the book form, not just substance.

Finally it's designed to maintain the specific details, examples and anecdotes that authors often to highlight their main ideas, and it's usually those little details that really color a book and make stick with us.

I'm telling you all this because I first built hark for myself and I'm personally very satisfied with the result and I'm wanting to share with others (right now it's free and I'm not really in a rush to monitize). Just want to get people's feedback

Here is an example of how a book summarization looks like in hark

https://hark.now/view/ZDM0N

Please free to try it out for yourself or tell me a specific book, I'll process it and send you the link.

Kip Ashlynn 1mo ago

I will check it out!