Dude I have no idea why you are doubling down on this and turning it into something vastly more than it is.

Helping bitcoiners live on bitcoin but still access dollar payment networks without needing to hold dollars is not at all the “supporting VISA” or “not a real bitcoin standard.” You have falsely equated a payment method with a money.

• A merchant accepting bitcoin is no different. 99% of them do it to immediately convert to fiat. It’s no different than the user doing it first if the merchant still just wants fiat. It’s not special to do it at the merchant step rather than the user step if that’s what the merchant is going to use and they haven’t figured out saving in bitcoin is the only way.

• Literally no one is confused about what fiat is. Bitcoiners don’t buy short term VISA cards because they are confused about whether they want to hold fiat or bitcoin. That isn’t an argument relevant to this issue at all.

Again, you are conflating things that don’t make sense, and then getting angry about it and trying to turn this into some argument about how you understand what fiat is and nobody else does.

If you want more merchant adoption or another point of sale system then by all means go do that, but I use The Bitcoin Company a lot, and it’s specifically because I’m on a bitcoin standard and those prepaid cards are good for spending bitcoin anywhere, protecting my privacy, and protecting from subscription services that charge monthly fees forever. Yes, they are a very valuable company to people who live on bitcoin. As someone who finds them very valuable specifically *because* I live on bitcoin, I’d say I have the closest possible context to make that claim.

Everyone is trying to get off fiat. Theres a thousand different levels and stages for doing that. VISA for payments is literally the least of our concerns, imo.

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Nothing to disagree with here except the last point because you are not living on bitcoin. You are just holding bitcoin. Then cashing out more and more.

Is that right? So I don’t get paid in bitcoin, save and use bitcoin, and pay my employees in bitcoin? I don’t know how this happened but thank you for letting me know! 🙄

Its just an illusion. Bitcoins are a token for fiat. You got paid in fiat tokens. Bitcoin is just like USDT only less stable. You are welcome.