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Always amazed by the fact that telling people to get married and have children seems to illicit this emotional response where some go “no, it’s not right for everyone”.

Actually, it is.

This isn’t like being interested in pickleball, this is the core of human existence.

Survive and reproduce.

It’s not a lifestyle decision.

And if you think it is you’re severely brainwashed.

It’s time to delete that bit of malware in your mind.

Brunswick 1mo ago 💬 4

A man never matures until he is a father.

A woman always pursues trivial matters until she becomes a mother.

Being a Father or Mother is a privilege nobody turns down, when faced with it in marriage, unless there is something severely wrong with them.

Birth control sterilizes the reproductive act to the point where having children is the furthest thing from one's mind, for both men and women, and yields opportunity squandered and a sterile life.

There are no riches that compare to a large and loving family.

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TheRupertDamnit 1mo ago

Some men and women that become parents never mature or give up the trivialities. Those folks should not have had kids. How much worse is it to find out once those poor babies are here?

Hanshan 1mo ago

People become adults once they get over their selfishness and stupidity and devote their lives to something greater than themselves.

That *tends* to happen when they have kids, but it doesn't happen automatically.

rafftyl 1mo ago

A lazy take in my opinion. Sure, for most people having children is the "maturity trigger", but think for a while and test your hypothesis against all sorts of monastics, saints, political leaders and philosophers throughout history.

Brunswick 1mo ago 💬 2

Good armchair quarterbacking there. Once you become a father, you'll know what I mean. Not before.

rafftyl 1mo ago

Probably I will in the coming couple of years, but I don't think it makes a difference to my argument. It takes just a little bit of looking around to notice that there are a lot of very immature parents and many instances of extremely wise childless people.

Brunswick 1mo ago 💬 1

Pointing out exceptions proves the rule.

I never said anything about wisdom. I'm referring to overall maturity, time preference being one example of that. One can be wise without being mature.

rafftyl 1mo ago

I agreed that what you said in your OP is probably true for most people. However, I don't see how you can be wise without being mature, but I don't really want to argue about definitions.