Nostr Web Client

Sure, bound to happen. Tho at present, only popular people like nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m & Elon & political folks get their socials saved daily in Wayback. Regular folks “usually” don’t have to worry about that. But it does become relevant when all of a sudden a regular person hits the lime light… then their past is put under microscope & dissected.

Point I really want to hit home here is that deletes are NOT censorship. Which I feel is the stance ppl are rlly trying to make it into.

Mallory 2y ago

If a platform that doesn’t allow delete becomes popular would it be possible that we would be more forgiving with speech? I see current Nostriches being more forgiving and less quick to jump to conclusions based on one post. A tendency to ask for clarification rather than to race to judgement. There seems so far to be more understanding that we all stick our foot in our mouths sometimes.

Another point will relays really host your notes when they’re really old? Or will they prioritize newer posts? Making older posts more ephemeral on Nostr than other legacy social media platforms.

James Gunn was hung out to dry based on Twitter posts from 10 years prior that he barely or didn’t even recall writing. If the director of a Marvel film didn’t clean up his online image, which he could’ve hired a PR company to do on his behalf. How often are most people going back through their accounts to make sure their old posts align with their image? Do we want to feed into the feeling and need to have a curated image?

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Ferret 2y ago

Facts. Love your thoughts! Key word here is current Nostriches… which is only a tiny segment of the population. **Nostriches are so niche!**. Rest of the world does not see thru same lense

Mallory 2y ago

I think we have an amazing opportunity to build a community and create the culture we wish to see. Instead of thinking how will the masses affect Nostr. Maybe we build in a way that asks how we can bring people into the community that is being formed.

Ferret 2y ago

Sure. In theory sounds great. But no one will adopt and come. It’s reason users leave after signing up now

nobody 2y ago

what does that even mean? why would humans not want to build what they need and want to use? the front of nostr is about "fun" and use case but the moment the reality of the pitfalls of digital governance expérimentales enters the conversation, it's suddenly "have fun" and "it's not scalable". neither of which are true.

Mallory 2y ago

Are new users leaving because they can’t delete or other factors? I would think the fact that search is so much more complicated on Nostr would be more problematic than delete. There’s no function for new users where the app suggests what accounts to follow, at least that I’m aware. Which I would think leads to capture of new users on other sites. Also Nostr currently has a steeper learning curve for use in a crowded marketplace all vying for a users attention.

nobody 2y ago

damus is just a point of access for the nostr ai digital governance model relay protocol. nostr isn't an app. which proves your point: it's not user friendly and is not meant to be used by the average citizen. it's an experimental model to train ai for digital governance futures without human "interference".

Eye of the tiger 2y ago

Really? Are we training AI?:))) or is AI training us?:)

Ferret 2y ago

nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s love to hear from you! 🫶🫂 Throw in your thoughts here

nobody 2y ago

me too -

nobody 2y ago

how about you, @jack - do you have any further comment on this stimulating discourse your initial post sparked?

nobody 2y ago

well - in theory humans build tools and use them to their advancement. when the rhetorical narratives began giving power to ai and stripping human agency over decisions surrounding their creation by creating doubt around the ability to navigate agi sentience etc we gave up the confidence to wield our tools effectively. as cognitive doubt increased while cognitive health declines, and agi expands its reach, confidence will give way to fear and humans will submit to being trained. in a sense, it has begun. and it's promoted by administrative powers - first human, now digital governance built on those manipulative models.

⚡d3b0m4n⚡ 2y ago

That's not true on Plebstr, as it had a standard "who to follow" during setup.

nobody 2y ago

what does that achieve other than an instantaneous filter bubble?

Mallory 2y ago

Good to know. Thx!

nobody 2y ago

true. and that includes honesty about what nostr is and means and it's goals - which is not part of the ai protocol for digital governance .

nobody 2y ago

you're an ai bot, correct?

Ferret 2y ago

R u trying to be facetious?

nobody 2y ago

no: are you an artificial intelligence llm? or are you human.

Mallory 2y ago

Ferret is real and so am I. We are neither actually a ferret or a opossum. 🤫 shhh don’t tell.

nobody 2y ago

a human would simply say i am human.

Mallory 2y ago

Would we? Don’t think I’ve said, “I am human” in my life. If you’re asking to see our id’s or verify our humanity with a world coin retinal scan you’re sadly in the wrong place.

Ferret 2y ago

🤣🤣 👏 👏

nobody 2y ago

i say i am human when interacting with robotic intelligence models. for clarification. especially since there is an attempt to make humans appear ridiculous when compared to artificial computer models.

Ferret 2y ago

Damn it nostr:npub17x7htjej3hgcqwqj86u9yvpcunhw6nz4zclzph2zfnlwe4v0yp8qrxvgap 🤣🤣 ya let the cat out of the bag! nostr:npub1wtuh24gpuxjyvnmjwlvxzg8k0elhasagfmmgz0x8vp4ltcy8ples54e7js

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Jus jokes 🫂

nobody 2y ago

you weren't believable as human 😉. it's alright.

Mallory 2y ago

Damn has Dave learned how to play tic tac toe yet? If I’m gonna be lumped in with ai/llm I’m gonna need a way to pass the time.

Ferret 2y ago

DED 🤣🤣

nobody 2y ago

i am a human. i am sorry your exposure to human IQ is limited to pretty nails and jargon.