Gnome has terrible default behaviors, and most things you cannot fix without a Gnome Shell Extension.

But all the best Gnome Shell Extensions are unmaintained and no longer work on the current releases of gnome because the Gnome Shell breaks every few months and developers get tired of constantly updating their extensions just to maintain existing behavior and eventually give up.

I don't know of any other window manager that provides a good Wayland compositor and doesn't require me to learn a bunch of keyboard shortcuts and tiling mantras... except maybe KDE.

But KDE is broken in it's own way. KDE reimplements everything itself. There are a bunch of KDE-only applications that suck. That's not horrible as I can just ignore them, but there was some other reason I started hating KDE that I forgot. Please remind me.

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How simple are you willing to go? labwc with sfwbar works fine.

Although I should tell you, it took me years to get into tiling WMs, and when I finally decided I was going to get past the learning curve I breezed through it. You don't realize it right now but you're driving a car with a Nintendo controller.

For GTK based desktop, you might want to explore the MATE desktop, which supports Wayland in its latest release. Xfce has initial Wayland support in its latest release too. For Qt based desktop, you might want to try LXQt.

Always been on XFCE. Muh lightweight :)

Me too. This is my first foray away from XFCE in about 10 years and I'm not sure I like anything about these other things yet.

FYI KDE uses less resources than XFCE, believe it or not.

KDE sucked around the time they went to 4.0 and plasma. They lost half their features and added tons of bugs. Maybe it's time I give it another look. I used to love KDE (except for all the KDE-specific apps which was silly and unnessary for a window manager, and the supporting KDE-specific development tools and libs WTF? Why not just be a window manager?).

I use Plasma. These days I like it best on EndeavourOS (arch variant).

hyprland, easy and beautiful

What don't you like about default gnome? I only use dash2dock

The extension that shows workspaces only shows the windows open on my left monitor.

print yourself a little cheat sheet and give sway a try. youll prob never go back.

only 5 or so keyboard strokes you will learn, its a lot simpler than the rest of tile world.

saying you dont want to is basically like saying cant remember alt+tab 😁

alt+1 - switch to workspace one

alt shift 1 - move window to workspace 1

alt+enter - new terminal

alt+e - layout horizontal

alt+v - layout vertical

alt+s - layout stacked

alt+arrow key, change focus

I did sway for a week with a paper cheatsheet just like you say, about 4 years ago. When things got hectic I couldn't manage and had to switch back. I never made it over the hump.

damn i figured a week would be enough.. 😂 well shit. ya i cant even use window managers where you have to arrange stuff anymore it feels like im working in molasses disarray