I would definitely never recommend those services to a friend looking into Bitcoin. On-chain is fine, but lightning has so many caveats and problems I wouldn't risk it.

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Your uninformed and uneducated on the topic apparently

Maybe you tried it like a year or 2 ago lol

But it’s different now

Anyways I’m done letting you ruin my morning

Bye

I thought you were blocking me. If someone disagreeing with you is so offensive, I recommend you do.

it's custodial, but Strike or CashApp are great for Lightning.

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I've got a couple friends into Bitcoin. For their purposes, saving, lightning isn't really necessary, on chain is all they need. Hopefully it gets better with time.

All this talk about LN makes me remember the old days when OGs viewed Monero as the silver to Bitcoins gold!! If you plot ahead it really makes more sense to use Monero by the masses since they won’t be able to easily acquire Bitcoin post collapse

Unfortunately neither of those are available for me in Canada.

Zeus's built in node is quite a nice balance for sovereignty and convenience.

Blixt too.

Full LND only gives some marginal additional utility, but set up is quite easy these days particularly with Olympus as an LSP. You can get as in the weeds as you want or keep it simple.

Nah its self custody

And extremely easy

Phoenix or Zeus

Shilling kyc shit is trash

Or Minibits

Or npub.cash

It’s normie friendly

I’ve seen 12 year olds do it no prob.

minibits and npub.cash are not self custody :)

phoenix is actually fairly easy, i wil give you that.

coinos, rizful, albyhub... lots of options, none without caveats

that seems to be a recurring theme with lightning: choose your caveat.

I think one of the most damaging things in the Bitcoin space is wilful ignorance of how bad some of the tools actually are. Toxic positivity can be just as bad as the negative version. If you can't admit your problems, they never get fixed.

Cash app is my goto custodial choice, I like that when I spend dollars through it I have it rounding to the nearest dollar and that difference is automatically turned to sats for me.

If you buy via bitkey>cashapp no fees, no spread through December

Third party custody is not great

Absolutely based