Mullvad or Proton or else VPN?

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Mullvad is good

and IVPN is also good.

why?

KYC free accounts and payments. 3rd party auditing.

I think Proton VPN is also KYC free, and you can pay by on chain bitcoin.

A VPN provider can harvest a lot of data from you. You have to trust your VPN provider. There are VPN providers that have been caught logging users data even though they promised that they weren't.

TOR is way more private than a VPN.

TOR sometimes sucks to use.

Definitely.

The problem is, many sites don't work with Tor, or only after tweeking with the exit nodes.

Do you have any source where vpn providers have been caught?

That's why should never use those random "free" VPN services. There's about a million of them in the app stores. There's only 3 VPN services I'd even consider using, and they're all well-established, and have a consistently good reputation within security and privacy circles. If you use some RandoVPN that literally nobody has ever heard of, I have a hard time feeling bad when some shit like this happens.

No reputable provider has been caught doing that. It's all these random shit VPNs that you've never heard of.

Actually I did not hear about them 🀣

but I mean, what do you expect from noname companies? DYOR.

Also I find Tor a bit better but slower solution. But anyway, you will have a party to trust. Your entry node, your VPN provider. So nothing comes from free.

Then maybe reputation, and security audits by 3rd party is something that can help.

Tor is good for max privacy, but it's not good for performance. You can use a regular VPN on your devices all day for system-wide protection, and never know it's running. You can listen to music, stream video, do whatever, and it just works. You can't do that with Tor. It simply doesn't have the bandwidth. And lots of websites and services won't work with it unless you play all sorts of games with your exit nodes. So, they each have their uses. And you can use them in tandem so that most of your system runs through the VPN while select apps and a dedicated browser run through Tor.

ya

I use both, but I'd probably recommend Mullvad over Proton to most users. Their service a little better, there's some proxying features they offer that Proton does not, and you can sign up and pay anonymously. Proton is a good choice if you're already a Proton customer and have access to the VPN inciuded in your subscription.

Thanky! You can pay proton in bitcoin too, or? (Can't zap you, invoice fetch gets 403 error.)

I think you can pay with Bitcoin on-chain, but not lightning. Mullvad takes Monero I believe, and you don't need to provide any information to make an account. They just give you a random account number that's not tied to any personal information.

You can also use a lightning swap to pay onchain with lightning.

That's weird you can't Zap. I just tried it and it went through fine.

But it's the thought that counts!

I am gonna spam that node until I can zap you 🀣 Or do you accept cashu?

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