some of y’all’s bitcoin faves are showing their lack of intelligence right now
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Who exactly are you referring too?
jordan peterson
He’s always been a blowhard.
He was good on the pronouns issue but cucked hard to the covid hysteria ar the start of the pandemic
not talking about that. talking about his dumbass opinion of the last two days. he should stick to being obsessed with pronouns
I didn't hear anything the last two days which is why I asked what did he do
ah i understand, we’ll you’re better off being ignorant to it tbh
He’s expressing support for Israel and is calling out antisemitism, which is rampant.
It’s the least offensive thing he’s said, tbh.
antisemitism is awful and i will always stand with my Jewish brothers and sisters against it. anti-zionism is not antisemitism though, and that’s what he doesn’t understand. we can’t ignore the years and years of death against one group, while not being antisemitic. freedom from oppression
Sadly, the line between antisemitism and anti-Zionism is vanishingly thin and just about anyone who walks up to it ends up stepping over.
Bullshit
That's a nonsense talking point from those who see antisemitism everywhere
Yours is a nonsense talking point from those who deny it.
If you believe that I've got a bridge to sell you
Cuck
Calling someone a cuck because you disagree with them isn’t the big-brained argument you think it is. All it does is expose your ignorance and inability to debate.
I'm not calling you a cuck because I disagree with you
I'm calling you a cuck because you've cucked to the narrative that any criticism of Israel is borderline antisemitic
The same people who say that often end up with their foot in their mouth as they accuse actual Jewish people of antisemitism lol
not really though, calling any support for palestine antisemitism is offensive to the actual antisemitism that happens everyday. i grew up in a suburb that was a huge Jewish community, the antisemitism they would go through often was absolutely disgusting. there’s a clear difference between the two, and it becomes obvious that people just don’t like any support of palestine so they cry antisemitism knowing that it’s a serious issue.
One enables the other. Of course support for Palestinians isn’t inherently antisemitic, but it enables and empowers them to come out of the woodwork.
I try to stay out of these conversations because it’s such a divisive issue, but it’s also often overlooked that Palestinians and the Arab world are victims of an enormous psyop conducted over several decades to instill a Nazi-like hatred of Jews in order to prolong the conflict. This has been well-documented. I don’t know how that ever gets fixed. I feel bad for everyone.
but hasn’t that also been the other side as well? zionists and isreal supporting Jewish folk have been psyopped to believe that all arabs and palestinians should be eradicated. i’ve been seeing that for years. (i agree with you completely, but please don’t act as if both sides haven’t been psyopd).
Everybody been psyoped hard. Spiritual and Psychological warfare. The seemingly “adversarial” and opposed tribal leaders beating the drums and pulling the levers of war are actually allies, like brothers arms interlocked, in the maintenance and continuance of crisis and conflict, as a means to bolster their respective authoritarian control.
I strongly disagree with anyone who insists that the only way to end the conflict is to remove Palestinians from the land, but in the post-WWII era there were mass deportations of Jews living in Muslim countries who were taken in by Israel. Displaced Palestinians in neighboring countries were never absorbed, and remained in refugee camps for generations. This only helped to deepen the crisis, and it was clearly intentional.
It seems to me that the issue shouldn’t be “Palestinians” but Hamas. Personally I have a desire to see peace for Palestine. But Hamas is a terrorist organization. The mess is that Hamas does not operate like a traditional military (intentionally) so that attacking Hamas causes civilian suffering. It’s a god awful mess.
Eh, I’d disagree here. I’ve had the great fortune of an upbringing surrounded by many civil/human-rights minded, anti-zionist Jewish and allied non-Jewish people. The two (anti-semitism and anti-zionism) need not go together at all.
The wider issues I would say is that baseline antisemitism - the kind that’s designed to be hidden and built into the bedrock of our society (like baseline racism) - compels even people who believe they mean well to speak of “The Jews” and makes its very difficult for them to separate Jewish people (a myriad views, backgrounds, religiosity alignments, and ethnicities) and whatever the Israeli state is doing today…
Bullshit. I know plenty of Liberals who are both anti-racist and and anti-zionist.
i kinda messed up typing, i meant to say, while knowing that being against oppression, we must remain fighting against antisemitism as well.
Yes, this. I love Jews. But I'd like to see the Palestinians land which was stolen by the UN after WWII be returned to them. Because I love the Palestinians also.
It’s all meant to distract us and cause more war to keep the rich getting richer. I suspect US wants war with Iran unfortunately.
He’s often been a bellend. But hey, folks like putting other folks on pedestals.
He has a strange, irrational fear of a few things. Most of the time I just ignore him. Never had an account on X so never had to see him much.
It would be great for you to explain what you actually have a problem with and lay out a cogent argument for why he is wrong. Simply calling someone stupid is awfully low effort.
maybe read my other posts and replies instead of acting as if i haven’t said anything but call one dude stupid. i’m not going to repeat my words that won’t change your mind on the issue anyways.
why waste my time when i’ve already said it before, and know it won’t do anything to your unwavering opinion my friend
I think you’re in your emotions right now. I’m just now coming across some of your other posts, but I did read quite a number before saying anything. This is Nostr, and threads aren’t always the easiest to unroll when you come across them halfway.
I didn’t know I deserved to basically be called thick by you. I would’ve hoped I’d shown enough grace to deserve the benefit of the doubt from previous conversations. I can see that’s apparently not true, which is too bad.
i didn’t call you dumb? could you please show me where i did that?
woman showing her opinions ≠ being too emotional.
i think you misunderstood when i said “i called one dude stupid” i was speaking about mr. peterson, not you. that’s the only time in that post i was saying anything about intelligence. i was saying that i’d rather not argue with you about something i’ve already said before here. it’s useless to argue when we both have opinions that are unwavering
No I wasn’t attacking your femininity, nor did I feel like you were calling me stupid. I felt your initial post was low effort out of context, and I think you assumed my opinion could not be changed. I follow you specifically because I think you have deep thoughts and ideas I want to hear, and we have both been involved in discussions where we’ve ended up on the same side.
I would’ve hoped you could have pointed me towards your explanations on specifically when he had done to deserve your ire today. I disagree with plenty of what comes out of his mouth and don’t know if I stand with you or not based on your initial statement, or any of the comments I had found.
I’m assuming from context I’ve been picking up since that it has to do with the current situation in Israel and the Gaza Strip. I’m still not clear on what he said yet.
Dude jumped the shark years ago.
and much more..
Yah. He had it going in the right direction in the past and then fell off a cliff into chaos. Just like Nassim Taleb.