Nostr is too dissimilar to be a haven for most TikTockers. ByteDance originally released Douyin; then bought Musical.ly, and they merged to create TikTok. Another similar app will appear, or the sale will go through. Many have jumped to RedNote while waiting to see what Trump is going to do about it.

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It’s been shocking to me (in a good, world peace sort of way), watching the droves of Americas flooding onto RedNote all week.

There are some Nostr clients that at least partially resemble TikTok. Amethyst for instance has a videos section identical to that of the one on TikTok, although it fortunately it very glitchy. Olas is also pretty close too. I really hope there is a new Nostr client that mimics the design of TikTok completely or a new NIP is created for TikTok-like videos altogether.

Jumping from one cage to another as some of X have done by going to bsky does not solve anything, as you well know.

My criticism is aimed at those who have not yet had the opportunity to create a real alternative to tik tok on Nostr.

Certainly, it doesn't seem to have been a priority. While TikTok has been a huge source of income for many creators, I honestly don't see much overlap with Nostr users—aside from a few cross-posts here and there.

It's unfortunate to see people lose their platform, but there's a classic lesson here: never build your house on someone else's land. This applies to all social media platforms, both centralized and decentralized.

The best strategy for most remains to use these communication channels to connect with and direct like-minded people to platforms you control—your own website and your own mailing list/forum.

tbh we can do without platforms that incentivize race-to-the-bottom attention seeking content.

not that they'll ever cease to exist

but I dont see lamenting their demise either.

Agreed. And dancing on the graves of creatives who you may not respect / agree with / or understand is not necessary. Your final paragraph is a super important one and a lesson I had to learn as well many moons ago!

it better that they start to learn something about how things work

rather than find another platform for producing short attention grabbing content

viola

"storage isn't free?" 🤔

That was painful to read, but he's probably speaking for all newbies, there.

Just the basic ideas, that storing data costs money, or that you could store your own data, or that media are separate from text, is a nonstarter for most of them.

for sure.

but maybe a few of them will learn something.

just being here

even for a little while

could have an impact.

Yeah. Using Nostr actually teaches you how social media really works.

I know about zero people, outside of Nostr, who realize that the images on websites are not part of the HTML, they're just linked to from there.

people who used steemit and its clones learned about that tho, nostr:npub1cxp3l03x20mkzezzr4takm8w8zuva7xwvacmcewp97z58hjt8xls3mexlq was one of my compatriats from there - he still uses the community-take-over after Justin Sun turned the steemit.com app into a koreabot fest - it also uses markdown, as well

but yeah, most average people, they have no idea about anything of how it's done

Isn't it amazing that nobody know what hypertext means/is?

OP (nostr:npub1f6ugxyxkknket3kkdgu4k0fu74vmshawermkj8d06sz6jts9t4kslazcka ) already addressed your points.

And just like 99% of Bitcoiners who don’t run a node, 99.99% of ex Tik Tokers will not host their own video server and jump over to #nostr . Not never, but not yet ;)

which isn't what I said

but ok

My bad. I misunderstood your note.

People working 9 to 5 jobs drained by fiat, taxes, and fees, the last thing they want to do is learn how Data Storage centers work.

People want gratification, if we can't offer that to them then we lose.

I dont agree they are necessary

but do agree the vast majority won't find nostr or stay if they do.

just saying it will have a positive impact.

disruption is good.

At times, one needs to look outside the box , alas