Monero offers *good* default privacy guarantees.

There are technologies that protect sender, receiver and amount. Understanding those, users can make decisions.

Its homeslice here who's claiming easy opsec on a transparent chain "because liquid exists"

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Yea... I didn't say that. Your fee fees are very hurt because your orange coin sucks. I get it. I'd be mad too if I was down 50% for the year.

Monero been around 150 for like three years now bro. I got in under 60 USD so feeling pretty good about it.

And you still haven't provided any actual information about the supposed invincible opsec possibilities on bitcoin.

Just "trust me bro"

You're too focused on currency to understand OPSEC

blah blah

Put up or shut up

Bruh, the only one having an ayurism here is you.

Monero users have opsec. Monero is just one part of it. Those that don't though are still protecting themselves unlike bitcoin users that leave a big gaping hole to be filled by dicks and sundry.

This is true users of any currency have OPSEC. Except for CBDCs of course.

Pointing out that currency opsec is just an aspect of the greater opsec picture,

doesn't excuse you from explaining yourself when you assert bitcoin is fine and monero is unnecessary.

But you don't really have anything to say about it at all, do you?

Exactly. All things equal the same user would have a more difficult time maintaining their opsec as a whole by using Bitcoin vs Monero. An inconvenient truth they don't acknowledge.

All things equal, they work the same for opsec. One of them stores value well... An inconvenient truth for you.

One coin maintains forward and backwards privacy by default.

and one doesn't.

You are either lying to us, or to yourself.

Either way its misinformation that some peoples lives depend on.

Get your shit together.

Can you tell me who Satoshi is? Since Bitcoin is so bad for privacy?

What does anonymity have to do with privacy? Maybe learn the difference. Satoshis is anonymous but his transactions are completely public.

https://nostrcheck.me/media/af740d198babb8c7b82d0a4718eb354bb3f6af9a98639b85d4a5cf1371caba85/90ea5272b3c03ba24be742349416c2b104f10d8956181a41c31bd524c9f5ff12.webp

Thanks for making my argument for me. Anonymity is superior to privacy.

"...Since Bitcoin is so bad for privacy?"

Your whole claim was that Bitcoin is private. It's not.

Now you're switching up your argument to anonymity (Bitcoin isn't even truly anonymous, it's weakly pseudonymous). A blockchain that is anonymous AND private would be ideal for OPSEC. Lack of privacy weakens your ability to stay anonymous.

Not if you're doing OPSEC right... Which was my whole point

Even pros can and do fuck up OPSEC. Bitcoin just introduces extra ways to fuck up that are not possible with Monero (like amount analysis and address correlation)

You're being dishonest it's not the same. One makes things more difficult one makes them easier.

SoV has nothing to do with OPSEC or private transactions. Bitcoin can be $1 trillion per coin and still suck for privacy. In fact, it's a bad point for you to bring up because the only real time-tested SoV we have is gold which is private. Multiple millennia vs ~15 years

It’s actually down pretty bad over the last 4 years in bitcoin terms. Using fiat as your denominator will distort your actual value

Now price it in BTC. Oof.

This is measured in BTC not fiat. I already told you I don't use fiat.

Look this isn't hard

That is the USD PRICE OF BITCOIN.

(XMR/USD)/(BTC/USD) is USD denominated.

Obviously.

Its retarded y'all wave that around when you like but spend thw rest of your time shitting on fiat.

What that chart measures is *relative* speculative investment. Mostly by VC and fiat institutional degens.

So cool, BTC has attracted that crowd and you get off on your increased fiat-equiivalent purchasing power.

Kinda weird flex for supposed "freedom money" but I'm used to it.

This is one chart for BTC/XMR ...

omg

never mind dude

have fun

XMR will buy half as much BTC as it did last year. I think it's you who's having trouble understanding. Or perhaps you're having trouble internalizing that you're wrong.