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Uno 1y ago

I don't agree with people who are saying that Nostr isn't a decentralized or Censorship resistant protocol, because at its core it is, but I do think it's a problem how the vast majority of our protocol uses a handful of the same relays and media hoster. It you use the same app and closed services for your Nostr experience, then yes your account is neither censorship resistant nor decentralized cause it literally is centralized at that point. This is why I believe clients that control your Nip-5, Relays, Wallet, and media are setting you up for disaster. But how do we fix this? How do we teach new plebs to be careful?

I would love to hear your feelings #Nostr.

#Plebchain #introductions #Pleb

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strawberry_frog 1y ago

Are you referencing clients like Primal that offer a built-in lightning wallet? I have an Alby wallet and got my nip-5 through them. Is that the same situation? Just asking questions because this is all pretty new to me, and I want to better understand how this all works together 🤔

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Uno 1y ago

Primal, yes although I still like primal, it shouldn't be your one and only. Also ZBD

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strawberry_frog 1y ago

Gotcha. Yeah as soon as I got a code for Alby, I stopped using their wallet. And I primarily use Damus. Oh I hadn’t even heard of ZBD yet.

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Uno 1y ago

That's good. I would stay away from ZBD if I were you.

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strawberry_frog 1y ago

Noted 🫡

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Perky 1y ago

someones pissy lol

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Uno 1y ago

If anyone is whining it's you my friend, 5+ notes telling me what to do. STFU 😅

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Perky 1y ago

only 2 told you what to do…

i thought you wanted to hear our feelings as opposed to measured thoughtful discourse 🤣😅🤣🤣😅

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Perky 1y ago

host a relay

whining isn't cool fren

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Perky 1y ago

create a tool that makes it easy and safe to host a relay at home

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Perky 1y ago

after you've done something for the community we'll listen to you complain.

not before

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Perky 1y ago

"i love to hear your feelings"🤢🤮🤮

let's think for once 🤦‍♂️

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Uxellodunum 1y ago

Have you seen the relay menu on #Lume?

It has a huge list of global relays + relays used by followers.

If the current optimal number of relays to use is 2-5, I think such list make a lot of sense, but could perhaps use extra metrics to guide the user towards their usage.

Example, metrics such as latency (Again, just using Lume as an example, but that seems to be missing), whether it's paid, etc

I think another problem isn't even the centralisation at the user level. But rather, at the ISP level.

Arguably, well-operated relays that are not hosted by a cloud provider are better in every sense (assuming bandwidth needs are met by whichever ISP is used).

I think this is the next best step after self-hosting relays.

Integrating relays into clients can also solve a lot of problems (has its own challenges).

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Uno 1y ago

💯 no I haven't seen that list, could you show me?

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Uxellodunum 1y ago