A nonprofit for funding Nostr development should be ran by developers that know the goal and have minimized conflicts of interests + diverse viewpoints, not influencers with investments.
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Everyone is biased. You need to find some people with bias 😆
when SemiSats 👀
what's stopping you to start one ? you seem to have good ideas, be the change you want to see.
Be more specific. Which board members are not developers enough?
All of them aren’t Nostr devs
Some aren’t devs at all
Some have conflicts of interesg
so on
Decentralize the grants
Being a nostr dev uniquely qualifies you to ditribute funds? Is this on the assumption that non-nostr devs don't understand nostr enough to vote effectively? What qualifies one as a nostr dev? Whats the litmus test? There are some nostriches that are not devs but would be well suited to assess projects, are they disqualified?
For the last one: no they aren’t. including some people would be reasonable, but the test for “power user” is also vague
But also if you want users to assess projects… did you hear of Kickstarter
In Europe a whole lot of film funding relies on funding from foundations and gov entities. The panels are usually constituted of filmmakers and often also film distributors. The audience is represented by the experience of the filmmakers on the panel, they have had a relationship with the audience for years.
- library dev has revolutionary idea and creates a funding campaign
- client dev sees a use for this, creates another funding campaign sending parts of the money to the library dev
- users fund clients
- clients fund libraries
- everything gets built
- library dev has a stupid idea, creates funding campaign
- client devs don’t see a use for this except one (a bad use), creates funding
- users don’t see value proposition
- fail
Kickstarter is a great model for funding. Do you see a lot of devs be funded there? I only have experience funding niche board games there.
it’s the model that works, and doesn’t involve kingmakers like opensats, or any board bias at all even though I tried to avoid that with my proposal
clients compete for attention: what users really want gets funded
ideas are sent from the lowest level like relay implementations and libraries to user facing parts like clients
Is there something like Kickstarter, but for Nostr projects, with sat payments? I only know of the bounty board.
Have you asked to participate in the funding process?
I have not. I think there was a nostr committee or something that assisted with picking candidates for that, but I can’t find the list anymore.
Be part of the solution and ask to participate. Could at least audit things or similar.
you mean be part of the empire? the empire won't be the solution ... and time will tell
nostr developers on a committee deciding over nostr grants.... could never ever possible lead to any kind of conflicts of interest.
😂
I don't actually know why we need developers for this. We have some very knowledgeable power users, now, who would be more impartial and still make informed decisions.
The power users could start their own fund?
Why do you think that isn't what this is?
Could see nodeless (the gofundme alternative thing) used more for smaller projects. Would be nice if it appeared as embeds inside posts with target and progress bar to goals.
Oooh... like a reverse-bounty. 👀
It isn’t
The only mention of the nostr committee they mentioned were full of either client devs with their own personal interests (devs should decide grants they have no stake in) or people with investments. A good chunk of the board isn’t involved with Nostr that much from what I see
That's... weird. 🤔
We also have zap goals, Geyser, zapvertising... many models in place to raise funds.
What conflicts of interest again?
They know how shit works. If client developers decide grants for libraries for example, it would be a win win: client devs are more experienced in that subject, they don’t make a lib themselves, and multiple devs means minimized conflicts of interest
Instead we have people building closed sourced products with investments in competitors and that don’t remotely touch Nostr dev work.
It shouldn't be run by anyone who's involved in the project itself. Developers of the same project deciding over grants is a conflict of interest right there.
I think you should have a set of outside participants who are not developers (who offer varying skill stacks) who also understand the needs but can also offer diverse, contrarian and constructive perspectives.
How about a lightning prism set up to distribute donations directly to projects?
Devs with commits to notable nostr projects can vote on the distribution of the sats. All voting and distribution is public.