So if there is no way to know for certain that the Bible hasn’t been corrupted/altered, how do you confidently know that you’re worshiping the correct religion?
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Because I think God is a name for the energy that makes existence exist. It's just wildly misinterpreted because of Paul and Peter and all the other writers of the book who took liberties in doing so. I think Paul for instance was way more of a hardass than the big G God actually is. If your worshipping a six armed dancing indian lady, I have my doubts. If you're listening to your heart, your spirit and reading the signs of your life while you make decisions based on the good of yourself and those around you, you're moving in the right direction. And that comes with a feeling in my experience. I believe that feeling comes from God, along with chemical interactions, such type as the serotonin you get when you do something good for someone. Yes, that's biochemical. But if God made everything, then clearly, He's also a bit of a chemist himself.
I think that goodness you feel is just based on who you are and the social values you’ve adopted. These things are based on your genetics and life experiences. It doesn’t mean it’s from god. There’s a great book called the expectation effect and it proves how much your brain will distort and filter reality to show you the answers you want to see. This explains why everyone believe their religion is right and all others are wrong. It explains why people of all religions have unexplainable experiences with what they claim to be god.
Also this point brings up another important question. Why don’t all people have this good feeling when they help others? Psychopaths are incapable of empathizing with others. They feel nothing when they watch others in pain and agony. Why would god create people that way? They are incapable of being good. They’ve been set up to fail and their destiny is eternal hell. But god made that person that way. Why? Isn’t that cruel?
It’s like breeding an abomination of an animal. Imagine taking the two sickest dogs with the worst genetic defects you can find and mating them together. Then the puppy is born and has no chance at living a normal healthy life so you punish it by killing it. If you called that an experiment, you’d be considered cruel. But if god does it, it’s somehow divine wisdom because my brain is too small to comprehend god?
Well yeah and narcissists, same story. The question is did God create those people or did their circumstances? I’m given to believe narcissism is an adaptation, the kind you’d develop if you were say one of the guards on the trail of tears. Or in a war, or any of the other zillion fucked up scenarios human beings have been in. Again, I see God as an energy more than a deity. Seems more to me like God created the conditions for humanity, for life to exist and develop and develop it did. It just went in every direction. Jesus has a parable akin to this. He talks about some seed will fall on stone and wither in the sun and blow away. Some will fall on infertile soil and sprout, but soon dry up because it never had roots deep enough to grow fully. Then other seed will fall on fertile soil and multiply hundreds of times over. You might be that seed that falls on stone. Maybe you have nothing but degens and derelicts around you. But in reality you have two feet and a heartbeat. You have the freedom to go where you find good influences. You are capable of making decisions for yourself that your influences wouldn’t. You can make decisions guided by your own intent to be better for yourself and others. Will you? Or will you swallow that feeling that the people around you are peices of shit and just do what they do? I think God has compassion for those who recognize that something is wrong and do something about it. For people who give in to lust and greed and adultery and all the things that don’t do anything truly good for anyone? Less so. I might go to hell for killing someone who didn’t do anything to me besides a slight of disrespect. That would be a huge moral leep for me because I wasn’t brought up in a world like that. I would have to make the conscious decision to make that moral leep. For someone whose dad is in the pen for life and all his friends are thugs? Maybe God has more empathy for that person in a similar scenario. Or maybe if you kill somebody, God finds a way to kill you back and you get the extra crispy treatment. I won’t know until I get there. But I’m willing to bet my soul that the next life exists and that it’s a better chance of it being a good experience if I put effort into being decent while I’m on this earth.
So god sets some people up for success and others for failure. Is that justice? Is that fair?
Seems like you believe more in god than religion. I have no issues with that. My issue is with religion which is clearly manmade.
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I mean if you wanna die to verify, then come back and tweet the deets, you have my full support.
Is that the only way to verify?
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If we’re talking about what happens when you die, probably.
You can’t extrapolate from other statements of the source, find contradictions and disproof the source based on reason?
Try it out, then bet your soul on it.
Too many contradictions, I don’t have to bet a thing.
The bible is fiat 😬
The idea of a god comes from humans so those same humans have to carry the burden of proof. Religious people like to twist that around and ask you to prove where the world came from. But they can't prove where god came from. And lack of proof for the origin of the universe does not mean I have to believe in your god.
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Prophet Rand is the only one I’ll accept revelations from
The stories are a roadmap,and the map is not the territory.
That said, some maps get your where you want to go, and others don't.
Ye shall know them by their fruits.
That's why Cosmotheism is different from neatly all other religions. While not rejecting intuition or the race-soul, it embraces science as the best means of ascertaining reality.
Science is a misleading term.
Many experts assert that anthropogenic climate change is settled science. Similar claims are made about the Big Bang and thousands of anthropological ideas. None are factual or even have any merit. Much of what’s called “science” follows these patterns.
I don’t need a narrative or label to find and internalize credible evidence and accept the massive level of existential ambiguity I will always face as a human being.
I'd say that science is a misused term these days. (I don't think the CO2 and vaccine cultists are honest, and honesty is an essential ingredient of science.) But, used honestly and properly, it's not misleading. The scientific method is a well-tested way of gaining a more realistic view of reality. For example, one can make a test to determine whether moving air at a given speed exerts less pressure on a surface than slower-moving or stationary air. A further experiment will show whether or not an object's curved side experiences a greater air speed compared to its flat side when moving through air. Before you know it, you've got a wing that can lift a 20-ton aircraft a mile high. Neither faith nor common sense, good though they may be, gave us that for 50,000 years.
The essential element of science is credible evidence and the ability to verify evidence or consistently repeat outcomes. That’s all. And that’s all that can be counted on.
Well said. Sure science has been somewhat corrupted because the masses are retarded and prone to religiosity with anything. Trust the science is literally not how science works. Everything should be open to scrutiny. Any claim can and should be tested. But people are retarded and want to be sheep. And you can’t question religion. It’s a part of faith. If you question religion, you’re scared into thinking that you’ll spend eternity in hell. Just for questioning. In a world full of scammers and grifters, religion teaches you to be blindly obedient. Wild. Religion is legit harmful but people constantly tell me that I’m mean for not letting people be happy with their delusions. I can’t imagine how much better off humanity would be if people started thinking for themselves and developing their own moral compass. Imagine a world where people acted toward solutions instead of praying.
People are absolutely terrified of dying and having no answer to the unknown that lies beyond being alive. So humans have made up many stories with “answers” as cope that make them and their kin feel better.
Of course those stories and “answers” were all weaponized by the sociopath humans to control populations / tax / wage war / kill / etc.
Just happy I’ve been able to see through all of it. Religion is one of the creepiest mental prisons I’ve ever seen. Antithesis of freedom and critical thought.
I’m so glad I broke out of it
Respect dood its a very hard one to break out of.
I was raised by atheists but found their position to be as weird and as extreme as religious people.
What is so hard about saying “I don’t know.”?
You’re not wrong
Perhaps god only comes into being toward the end of universes, after life has sufficiently evolved.
“God” is absolutely energy.
Can energy create itself?
Wouldn’t surprise me if base reality is far stranger than we can possibly imagine and literally incomprehensible to the human mind.
There is so much information we can’t perceive. I’d be amazed if humans could measure even 50% of total information available.
