Are you saying your progression went Nostr then Bitcoin? That is interesting if that is the case. At this point, I’m guessing the majority of people using the Nostr protocol were into Bitcoin first.
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I also got into Nostr first (and only recently at that). As a web developer, I am fascinated by the technology, and hoping to find a way to contribute to the growing ecosystem. I've learned a ton about Bitcoin, almost by osmosis, just from being on here.
let’s go michael! you’re contributing by being here. thanks for sharing your story
Welcome to Nostr and the decentralized future of social communication. We're glad you're here. 🫂💜🤙🏻
Followed. I cant wait to see what you build
Welcome!!
Soon, you'll learn about #libertarianism and #voluntaryism ! 🔥 😁
#liberty #SeparationOfMoneyAndState #Bitcoin
What is voluntaryism? I don't think I've encountered that term before.
It's the idea that if an idea is good, force and coercion are not required. It's a clearer reframing of libertarianism in that liberty is the default human condition, controlling others is what's abnormal and unnatural. In almost every area of your life, your interactions with others are based on voluntary and mutual consent. But not with government (or their appointed monopolies).
If government services are valuable then force, coercion, and violence are not necessary to serve customers, right?
Government gives itself a monopoly on violence in a geographic region. This violence exists to protect the rights and property of others... by violating their rights. It's all such a downward and destructive spiral. Especially as the state grows in power and continues to extort more from its citizens.
Anyway, #bitcoin fixes this by making governments ask nicely for tax money (inflation / devaluing the currency is no longer an option with a fixed 21 million supply) and respect their citizens. If they don't, Bitcoin allows them to leave with their wealth stored in their head as they travel to greener (more free) pastures.
I'm sure there's more to add, but this might help provide a decent answer to the question.
Pura vida! ✌️🤙 #liberty #libertarian #asknostr
So you're saying Bitcoin allows people to vote with their feet, so to speak, and removes government's coercive power.
I've thought a lot about government and political philosophy lately. Patrick Deneen's book "Why Liberalism Failed" pilled me (not sure what color lol), and I've been trying to work out what might be a just replacement for classical liberalism. So far I think the answer will involve trust, strong community, and subsidiarity.
Bitcoin's greatest strength is that it's not physical! It makes it impossible (or very difficult) to steal except for the $5 wrench attack (probably up to $20 due to inflation 😂).
I agree that strong community is a huge part of the solution. But trust is earned and a system that is easily corrupted is not to be trusted (ever).
I think liberalism failed because the US Constitution and other documents designed to restrain government power have no teeth. At some point, the system has become overly abusive and the people in charge have no consequences for becoming tyrannical. I think public hanging of any politician or bureaucrat who proposes a law or edict that violates the clear limitations on the government is one such solution. The threat of violence by THE PEOPLE should be clearly articulated by the founding documents! This is how the US was founded... self-defense against tyranny.
Deneen's argument is that liberalism is based on radical individualism. When you pursue that to it's end, you sever yourself from all historical and social support structures, and as a result you end up depending on a totalizing state to provide for your needs.
I appreciate the friendly community and the value for value economy being built on Nostr, it seems like the start of building a system of trust between individuals that isn't mediated by government.
Same here. I was never any coiner. I don't even consider myself a bitcoiner now. But Nostr just hooked me immediately and I'm gradually experiencing the magic of bitcoin.
Yeah,love the magic
self sovereignty didn’t start with bitcoin for me. it was just a bonus of using nostr and speaking to the people.
there was a need for a decentralized service, it’s tiring to be tied down to different companies and what they want to do to you based on their lousy algorithms.