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I think the idea to have a joint unconference in Japan and Hong Kong is a bad idea.

Why not just Japan only?

HKongers will take up Nostr to enhance their fight for freedom. They are super tech savvy and normal social media is heavily policed right now. So, Nostr is the obvious answer. HK doesn’t need a conference for HKongers to take this up. In fact, it could work to get Damus and others quickly banned as the Gov becomes wise to Nostr’s potential. I presume Damus is not banned in HK at the moment cus I downloaded Damus and my phone downloads are governed by HK laws too.

I strongly believe that HK‘s take up of Nostr should be more on the down-low until it’s ubiquitous and harder to stamp out by the Gov. Right now in HK, any gathering needs to be registered with the police and they film EVERYTHING! I spent more than a decade of my life writing about and attending every protest in HK. The police and Gov aren’t fucking around. The entire democratically elected opposition of HK are either in prison, with no conviction, or have fled the city.

It’s illegal to wear masks in the city so as to cover up your identity. Stop and search by police is everywhere. You can’t refuse even though the laws say you can. HK is a police state in every sense of the word. And…. What? Nostr developers are going to fly in to talk about it?

Hong Kongers are going to attend a public conference and broadcast to the police who they are?

Stoooopid!

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gsovereignty 2y ago

Depends what you mean by freedom and what your baseline comparison is. At the start of covid I went to Australia + NZ for safety but went back to HK pretty quickly when it became clear that all the free countries wanted to put me under house arrest and inject me with god knows what.

I've lived in China in the past and have also been in HK for a decade+ and still here now.

I was 100% on the protestors side, out in the protests every day and nearly got arrested a few times but there's a broader geopolitical game afoot and HKers (along with me personally) have been waking up to it post-2019.

The general feeling on the ground here now is that in retrospect Beijing is a blunt instrument but preferable to the US/Fed/WEF.

If you talk to people working for wechat etc and look at exactly how Beijing uses social media, nostr is not a threat to them, could actually be the opposite.

No one is going to use a transparent and open system to organize a succession movement.

What it can actually be used for is enabling a shared global consciousness that if we are lucky might help prevent world war three.

Rich5 2y ago

I call bullshit on what you’re saying here.

“I was 100% on protesters side” is always a caveat for a ‘BUT’ actually HKers need to be more pragmatic, cus, well China!

Your words are littered with CCP talking points. No one who understands the protesters would describe it as a ‘secession movement’ A CCP talking point.

People in HK who believe in freedom and have been run out of their city absolutely do not believe that US/WEFis a bigger threat than the CCP. Yet another Beijing talking point. Hong Kongers absolutely will use Nostr to express their desires to be free and fight the system and HK police will try to ban it as soon as they realise it’s potential, so shining a big light on it so early on in the city is a big mistake imo. Especially if it’s coming from a place of ego.

If the conference hastens this then it will be a huge slow hand clap for you.