Wtf?

I just sent myself 400k SATs from breez to phoenix, but I only received 15k sats.

WTF HAPPENED #ASKNOSTR #breez #lightning #zap #phoenix

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What do the transaction details show?

Fees to open a channel?

That sounds right. I don't like this abstraction they use in pheonix. It is too easy to make a mistake with fees. I'd rather the tx fail than create a new utxo by default. Maybe i could find a better home for the sats.

Guessing breez’s ā€œfeatureā€ of not telling the user anything, plus a large inbound channel upgrade on the Phoenix side. But still that seems too high even for that.

Breeze fee was 890 sats to send, phoenix open channel fee was 14000 sats..

Da fukk

$8.41 to open a channel. That doesn't sound unreasonable this day and age. I've seen worse.

lightning isn't that scalable

For small amounts you can use cashu and larger amounts, lightning

Lightning is a pain.

That’s still less than 10% of the missing sats?

Any supersleuths please help ;__; #help

I can only guess that phoenix filled up your abacus before opening a channel, so the utxo size is the remaining after filling up your preexisting channel.

You have the preimage, that means the all amount was sent to Phoenix (you wouldn't have the preimage otherwise). Please contact their support and involve us if needed.

Okay, ill give them a try 🄲

I'm not crying, you are 🄲

That's weird

Welcome to the Lightning Network.

UPDATE: I got it. looks like it was waiting for an onchain transaction, but nothing in the UI indicated that. Were good now but that was scary and not sure ima fux with lightning for a while. Phoenix has given me nothing hut issues since instarted using it a year ago :(

Thanks everyone for help <3

I have not liked my lightning experience overall. There are some awesome things being built with lightning, but I wish it was easier to self host. My experience with integrated lightning in fountain has been great. For now I'm sticking to using custodial wallets and not keeping too much money in there.

My initial reaction when trying to figure out lightning was, this will never be easy to self host and I hope it fails so a better layer 2 could be built. Maybe I listened to podcasts that were too technical. I still kind of want it to fail despite the cool stuff being built.

Check out the #tutorials by nostr:npub1rxysxnjkhrmqd3ey73dp9n5y5yvyzcs64acc9g0k2epcpwwyya4spvhnp8 on #Phoenixwallet over on YT. #likesharesubscribe

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Not your node, not your rules

Do you need help to set your own?

I have the hardware just lazy