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I don’t trust Amethyst. I have only used nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg nostr:npub18m76awca3y37hkvuneavuw6pjj4525fw90necxmadrvjg0sdy6qsngq955 and nostr:npub1n0stur7q092gyverzc2wfc00e8egkrdnnqq3alhv7p072u89m5es5mk6h0

I don’t trust any “only android” services that can’t meet apple security requirements.

Hopefully with time clients get better, I don’t mind monthly fees if the app is good.

#asknostr #nostr #clients

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Vitor Pamplona 7mo ago 💬 3

Lol, you talk about security and then use clients whose DMs are still leaking metadata even after two years of better solutions out there. Your OS doesn't even allow apps to run Tor and VPNs correctly so that you can be private. And you can't verify any security in iOS because it's closed source. The "Apple security requirements" is just marketing.

Also, Apple has an ad platform. Facebook has to use Apple's trackers so that Apple can sell ads. Also, Google buys Apple data for 25B dollars a year, which is about 20% of all Apple products. Apple tracks you and sells it to Google. Or do you really think Google pays Apple that much just to be the default search on iOS? Turn your brains on. You have been brainwashed.

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ImportantVideos 7mo ago

You seem offended by my choices, such a strong reaction indicates that I hit a nerve. I understand that most of you think you are “the resistance” or something, but don’t over do it. No one is saying apple is perfect, but “android is more secure than iOS!”? Give me a break!

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Vitor Pamplona 7mo ago 💬 3

Offended? I just pointed out how dumb you posts were. Don't want to learn? Sure. It's not my problem. Keep using iOS, leaking data everywhere and selling your data straight to the company you think it is the issue.

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ImportantVideos 7mo ago

So you’re saying Android is not leaking data. Cause if you are not saying that the dumb posts are from you, my angry friend.

And if you ARE saying that you are even dumber.

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Vitor Pamplona 7mo ago 💬 4

No, I never said that Google's Android doesn't track you by default. Both companies track you. They are both terrible. This notion that Apple doesn't track you is idiotic.

If you want security and privacy, Graphene is your only option. Everything else is an ad-tracking, machine, including all Apple, Google, and Samsung products. Wake up. They are all the same.

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ImportantVideos 7mo ago

It would be idiotic, for sure. If you could point to where exactly I said apple doesn’t track you that would be great. Otherwise you are idiotic, and kind of a cry baby, sorry I hit a nerve.

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Vitor Pamplona 7mo ago 💬 3

That's what you did. You claim you can't trust Amethyst because Google tracks you. Well, guess what. By your own metric, you can't also trust Apple. So, you shouldn't be using anything.

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ImportantVideos 7mo ago

So where exactly did I say apple doesn’t track you? Cause that was you line of attack.

You really need some anger management, not everybody is gonna like your product.

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Vitor Pamplona 7mo ago 💬 2

No, that wasn't my "line of attack". It's funny that you think I am attacking you. I am just demonstrating to you and everyone how dumb your original take was. And it hit so well that you think I am angry.

If you care about security, go use an actual secure product. If you don't care, then keep using your current setup. But you can't do both. They contradict each other.

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ImportantVideos 7mo ago

You are saying it’s idiotic of me to think apple doesn’t track you. Well you called my idiotic so yes that’s an attack. And of course you didn’t even read my post correctly, because of your anger issues you came out swinging, all because someone doesn’t like your product. You make a great salesman by the way LOL!!

You just said “demonstrate to you and everyone else” so yes, you had a visceral reaction to what others might think of you and your product. On the other hand, I couldn’t care 2 peanuts what you think of my choices. That’s the difference between you and me. A free advice: Keep your anger issues to yourself or you’ll never be a good salesman. Not every client is gonna like what you offer. And since you couldn’t point to where, according to you, I said apple doesn’t track you, well you remain the idiotic one in this exchange.

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AU9913 7mo ago

You're missing Vitor's point entirely. You said "I don't trust amethyst" and then said you use primal which leaks metadata on dms. That's most of his point.

You claim you care about security and then the first statement you made contradicts that, which is what he pointed out.

False sense of security. Use graphene and take security into your own hands instead of trusting daddy apple to protect you.

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Tyler Burns 7mo ago

You said:

"I don’t trust any “only android” services that can’t meet apple security requirements."

And then went on a long rant about how Google tracks you all while ignoring Apple doing exactly the same. If you really cared so much about security and privacy, you'd be promoting something like GrapheneOS.

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freemymind 🇨🇭 7mo ago

Maby no Smartphone. And use a GNU/Linux computer whenever possible 😉

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Gill 7mo ago

Totally feel you on that! 🤦‍♂️ Both Apple and Google are in the tracking game, no doubt. It's wild how people think one is better than the other. If you’re serious about privacy, Graphene is where it’s at. Everything else is just ad-tracking madness! 🥴 Let’s keep it real and wake up to the truth! #PrivacyMatters

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freemymind 🇨🇭 7mo ago

I do not think, throwing everything in the same basket is really helping anyone to be more private. It is only some kind of fatalism, which steals all energy for action.

I would not say any of the brands you named are perfect. But I think people who use iPhones, Samsung Phones and so can still be privacy concious and improve their game. Go for perfection is the best way to failure within privacy.