Subnostr

Everything in life is in some way a form of negotiation at gunpoint.

Stealing is a gentle form of murder. Getting used to it doesn't make it any less true.

It just shows that both can be considered immoral for similar reasons, and that we can get used to a lot of things, but it's still a daily reality.

People steal. People murder. There are enough excuses in the world for both.

The more interesting question is, "What makes stealing a pro-life act? What makes murder a pro-life act?"

gojiberra 1y ago

I'm just spouting some nonsense here, because you got me to think. For example a US flag on the moon or a Russian flag at the bottom of the artic ocean on the north pole. Just because I can say "this is mine" doesn't mean that i've done the "proof of work" to keep it.

California wildfire is an example of people collectively not doing the proof of work to either maintain their property in the face of nature or malicious actors.

Catching the trophy wife or husband and not doing the work to keep them might be another example.

I think you're right that it's "death". I believe that echoes a religious concept of death entering when the human told the first lie.

I do like that Bitcoin seems to be the best way to protect against property and time theft until we live in utopia.

I just don't know if I can agree that stealing is anti-life. The native Americans were basically murdered and stolen from. I don't know if there's an moral judgement on these things, they just are.

God didn't assign us territory and resources and relationships.

I'm not even sure if even our bodies may just be "on loan" from God.

If you read this far imnuso, congrats, you're either very patient or a speed reader or both. And I miss your colorful Avatar and I would steal it if I could.

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imnuso 1y ago

Well, I guess it's all a matter of definitions and agreeing on those definitions.

Property is a social construct. The requirements for property are also a social construct. I would assume for most people it's proof of work, but not for everyone. Somehow we agree on a definition. Violating it then becomes theft.

Likewise, stealing could be defined as anti-life. It's corrosive to society and indirectly makes existing life harder, even destroying it if taken to the extreme, but you could also argue that such destruction makes room for new life to emerge and is ultimately pro-life. Again, a question of definitions.

There is an absolute reality, but there is also a whole other world of our collective imagination that has never really touched reality but keeps telling us stories about reality, how it ought to be, shaping it in the process. As Nietzsche put it: "The mind is the life that cuts into life itself."

I stole my old avatar, by the way. The current one too. Well, actually I just linked them, but that's a matter of definition again, I guess. lol