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Zero Google.

As Google shifts to put AI and "Find my device" in the hardware itself, who knows if this corrupt and evil company secretly has backdoors in Pixels. We just don't know.

Introducing the first of our "Zero Google" non-Pixel Phones,

LineageOS OnePlus 9

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No Battery Cycles, Brand New

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Optional 6-month VPN subscription as well.

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In theory, the "find my device" needs a google account to be activated. And if you trust that, then we offer Pixels with GrapheneOS.

But if you don't, and you want to completely separate your ties from Google, then this is an easy, low-cost way, to keep your name off the IMEI for geolocation tracking from celltowers, save time with Lineage's setup, and get an amazing price for a mint condition brand new device.

Reach out either way for Graphene or Lineage. It's not for me to decide, it's your device:

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LOS has more connections to google than graphene

This is true. But these can be got around.

Google hardcodes 8.8.8.8 as the DNS. Theres no setting to change it. You can turn on DoH, but that uses a hostname, which your phone gets the IP for using, you guessed it, 8.8.8.8. This is written into AOSP and isn't lineageOS specific. You can, with a little bit of work, change that to whatever you want. It is a bit involved, requires flashing to /system without the system resizing the partition but if you want to do it you can. I do, for now, but I'll probably move to graphene at some point.

All the other google phone home stuff is relatively easy to fix. Almost everything it does involving talking to google can be turned off with MicroG and not doing device registration and using a unified push application like conversations.

I wonder why not more people run their mobile phones behind openwrt mobile routers with an anonymous esim and the possibility to change the IMEI?

Then connect exclusively through WiFi or cable and route everything through Tor.

Does the graphene team have any writte ups on any potential hardware issues with pixel phones? I'd assume, given their commitment to privacy, they'd have put quite the effort into that before deciding to go pixel only, but of course that cannot be 100% assured.

Either way so far I've done exactly what you're offering here: oneplus and lineageOS, for over a decade just to avoid pixels. Considering moving to graphene but still unsure, which is why I ask.

My question isn't answered in there.

There are very transparent and detailed hardware requirements there.

As of today, only the pixel satisfies these requirements.

GOS is working with another OEM to meet GOS requirements on a non-pixel device.

It's looking light on the details to me. "It would be a lot of work to support other devices" is basically the entirety of it, I'm seeing no detailed hardware requirements for a phone to be a candidate except "made by google."

Understand, I'm not attacking anyone here. I will be buying a pixel and running grapheneos on it very soon. But I still wonder, when you say "only pixel satisfied these requirements" why, particularly, is that the case?

The secure element requirement eliminated 98% of all androjd devices.

Samsung is the only major OEM that sports some version of a SE.

GOS could be working either with Samsung, or some other OEM to meet all other requirements beyond the inclusion of a SE.

the security chip and its integration with the os

Does this make your device less secure? Because from what I understand with lineage, you cannot re-lock the bootloader after the installation is completed, which would leave your device susceptible to evil-made attacks.

A Pixel with nostr:nprofile1qqs9g69ua6m5ec6ukstnmnyewj7a4j0gjjn5hu75f7w23d64gczunmgpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0wd68ytnsw43q4gnztg is far more secure than some other device with LineageOS. Just 'removing' Google doesn't improve your privacy or security, it just restricts what Google know about you and will almost uncertainly leave your device vulnerable.

True, but if your goal is privacy and the choice is between an old phone you can install LineageOS on VS stock android I would go LineageOS all day