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I'll zap 1000 sats to anyone who gives me ONE reason/argument as to why we still can't have #bitcoin Core (or any other node implementation) on our phones in 2025.

🔹Smartphones are far more powerful than Raspberry Pi's or old laptops.

🔹Many of us already have cheap, unlimited 5G data plan and bandwidth.

🔹A 10GB pruned node is enough for 99.99% of people. You don't need all the block data from the past 15 years...

🔹Initial syncing speeds can already be dramatically increased with snapshots of pre-synced timechain data (see jaonoctus project).

🔹The node doesn't need to be always online, just when you're moving uxtos, it can quickly sync to the latest block, so battery is not an issue.

Cody 8mo ago

The better question is why? I just don't think many people transact on chain via mobile. I certainly don't.

I'm all for running nodes and do so myself, but I don't think it needs to be a priority for mobile.

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Skipper 8mo ago

If the goal is to have everyone running their own nodes, then we must have a mobile app. Mobile is the future, everyone has a phone, very few people have old laptops or dedicated servers on their home to run a Bitcoin mode.

Jason SatSki 8mo ago

Old phones as nodes? Even newer phones would need to have an external hard disk.

Shooter McGavin 8mo ago

Pruned mode slim

Skipper 8mo ago

Read the post.

OΞHI ⚡️🧡 (111k Gang) 8mo ago

Wearables are the future, phones will be obsolete.

Leave the Phone at home as a node and uap through your smartglasses

OΞHI ⚡️🧡 (111k Gang) 8mo ago

Uap = zap

Jason SatSki 8mo ago

Zeus wallet somehow functions as a node

Skipper 8mo ago

Zeus Wallet is for Lightning mainly.

Shooter McGavin 8mo ago

From 2019 https://www.tftc.io/issue-445-android-bitcoin-core/

Prisoner24601 8mo ago

Ok shooter magavin is the best profile name, period. Also, how do I do this!? I have an extra phone that's carrier locked and I cannot use it. I'm all about mobile node running

Shooter McGavin 8mo ago

Bro I'm so old school that I have no idea what's even happening in 2025

SuperKai 8mo ago

Full node is not feasible with 1TB on chain data one your phone just to validate a transaction

Shooter McGavin 8mo ago

Pruned yo

SuperKai 8mo ago

I hear ya, but pruned ain’t full. Can’t run local mempool with pruned, I would assume.

Shooter McGavin 8mo ago

Skipper 8mo ago

Please read the original post.

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DarthCoin ₿⚡️ 8mo ago

This is the right answer.

Arándano 8mo ago

I have one better... We do not need nodes in mobile but neutrino peers over for (BIP 158, Compaq Block Filters)

nostr:nprofile1qqsfuv8fgq3cek0ta0rr9qtkm4x3pxqjz22y9u4xcwrj0lrxlfl2jzsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qyg8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnddakj7qg3waehxw309ahx7um5wgh8w6twv5hs25c7t0 do you agree??

lontivero 8mo ago

Compact filters are for those who want to have a way to sync a lightweight wallet in a privacy-preserving way. That's not what people is talking about in this thread, they want to run a full bitcoin node.

DarthCoin ₿⚡️ 8mo ago

yeah neutrino is another thing than what was questioned

High Heel King 8mo ago

Most people do most of the personal finance on their phone. Laptops aren't widely available everywhere on Earth.

Cody 8mo ago

Lightning

High Heel King 8mo ago

I can't remember the last time I did a base chain transaction on a laptop. Mobile works just fine, especially when using QR codes. Nunchuk is solid. Green is excellent for watch-only receiving. Cove seems promising.