my opa, my father and me all were displaced by war, first WW2, then the indonesian war of independence, and then the australian socialism drove me away from there as well

my mother's family hardly moved at all, i think 3 times in my grandfather's life

the only real nomads are people like mongolians who have to literally pack up their yurts to move to other parts to graze their sheep, goats and horses

everyone else who moves a lot is a literal refugee

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My grandparents came to Germany dragging a hand cart and some toddlers, on the one side, and were migrant sharecroppers picking oranges and cotton, and living in trailers, on the other.

My husband's family has verifiably been living in this village for at least 500 years. They've probably been here since the Romans.

Staying in place is the new luxury. I am so tired of living out of a suitcase and some cardboard moving boxes.

indeed, i am tired of it too... i'm even planning in the next two years to get my patch of dirt, build my crazy bunker, and start learning how to keep goats and sheep, and learning how to preserve food that will keep me through as much as 3 years of famine

You could ask nostr:npub1cm87c625x3tzqu2qzf7e845749k58u7xvx2gc8ym0wmg9sytwwuqdrzwm4 for advice. I think he has goats.

i just need to work, and stack, and get myself to where i want to set up, buy whatever i need to get left alone by the local immigration pigs and be able to own land, that's it

the rest is easy, goat and sheep herding is common across the areas i have in mind to settle, as is heating the house with coal or wood, it's really the perfect place to get stuck, i just have to have enough to get lodged

I am not the one that spends time with the goats and sheeps but yeah. We have a few. And we make the best yoghurt 😄

*envies as green as lettuce puree*

Where ate you planing to live if i may ask?

eastern bosnia, the most mountainous part of the country, either that or northwest montenegro, i am not sure which would be better... you can see by the maps that northeast montenegro is very sparsely populated

Bosnia and Montenegro sound good. There is a chance of a war conflict in the neighborhood, but except that it should be nice.

Australian socialism? 🤔

one of the most advanced welfare systems on the planet, one of the most stealthy apartheid systems on the planet, probably the largest number of known (by australian federal police) pedophiles on the planet, what other metrics are there? one of the highest effective tax rates on the planet, the largest administrative and licensure burden on business on the planet

idk, how many of those things need to be true to call it socialism?

israel and south africa are the other two in around the same level of socialism

australia is funded by minerals, israel by america, and south africa by minerals

Still not socialism.

my metric of socialism is how much of my income and how much of my life the government interferes with to my detriment, australia is one of the worst in the world

the best places i have lived in this respect have been in the balkans, western europe and southwest europe are also shitty, but only if you want to import things, mainly... and i don't want to or need to run a business, i am a programmer so i can work for anyone anywhere, and better if it's not local

they can't catch everyone, that's the biggest flaw in their system... one of the few movies actually directed by George Lucas, THX-1138 envisions a techno socialist system, and in the end of the story (spoiler) they run out of budget to stop him escaping their borders

here's my story about why i call what they have in australia socialism:

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What i understood is that you don't like interference in your life etc. Applied socialism, for example in USSR, had a lot of it. But we can't blaim socialism for the bads of capitalism. Capitalism has a lot of it too, maybe more. The system you were living on is capitalistic

so you consider socialism and capitalism to be similar?

then i don't mean capitalism either, actually i didn't even mention that

i mean honest, bible based free market capitalism honest weights and measures and no usury and no tyranny

maybe i'm idealistic but if you ask me the human race has inflicted this suffering on itself because every time you tolerate an incursion it gets easier to push harder on you the next time, and if your threshold is low, then you will get squashed and find yourself in a prison of slavery before you know it

i'd rather die than be a slave

"Batty : Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave."

- Blade Runner

like Orwell writes in Nineteen Eighty Four

if you don't know the words for things you can't think about them

The greek language has more words than the other languages. I do see a difference with other people sometimes. They can't describe something accurately enough in their language and they choose an alternative or loose description.

Yeah i get you i think and i like your plans etc but free market capitalism without usury and tyranny is an impossible longshot i think by definition. Not to mention the honesty you say.

Capitalism and socialism are similar in many ways. Good in theory, awful in practice. Most people can live under a modest capitalistic or socialistic regime but everyone wants to change what is having. Anyway, the thing is that many people blaim socialism for bad things that capitalism has and thus dive deeper in the capitalistic shit. It's a weird thing, yet happens all the time. You can see everywhere blaiming socialism for capitalistic doings.

i think that goodness is rare, by its nature, and thus requires more work than evil to achieve, but has a greater durability, so the initial outlay tends to be commensurate with the result

this is what people mean when they talk about "high time preference" - that is where you want the least work for the least bad result

"low time preference" is where you want the least work for the best result, over a much longer time window

i don't even understand what the socialist definition of any word means, but the word capitalism is the least clear

they seem to think that "capital" means power, and power is influence, and the ability to deceive

but actually, this is thanks to a historical linguistic thing

capitoline hill, one of the 7 in Rome, is the location of the Temple of Saturn

capital, in the sense of the german word "Kapital" as in the basis of the title of Marx's book "Das Kapital" ostensibly was talking about the matter of resources, what is understood by business people and a substantial part of the economic theorist population by the word "Capital" is simply the resources that can be applied to use for a given end

the optimal application of capital gives you the most beneficial result for the majority of people

the least optimal application of capital gives you the most beneficial result for the smallest minority of people

when i say "capitalism" i mean someone who works on optimizing the application of resources to the greatest profit for the greatest number of people, because i consider "capital" to mean resources and "capitalizing" is well understood to make the greatest possible value out of a resource

how "capital" and "power" get confused with each other is part of the mind trick that these plutocrats, or maybe it's more accurate to say they are members of the Temple of Saturn, which is on the hill called "Capitoline" and the word "capito" means to grasp, and there is two meanings of grasping

one is the basis of "entrepreneur" the french word for grasp, the latin "capito" is "pren-" and "entrepreneur" means to "grasp between" (entre means between, which is also related to the word for "enter" which means to penetrate an opening).

the other meaning of grasp is literally theft

so you see, there is a persistent and unmitigated confusion between the meaning of seizing opportunities and taking advantage of people using mechanisms of power, which depend on deception and theft

if you believed that black means light and white means darkness, then how could i have a conversation with you about the nature of the illumination of an environment, or an image?

same problem with this confusion between capital and power

if we can't agree what these words mean, we can't have a conversation, and this is a deliberate poisoning of the language, and if you actually have read Nineteen Eighty Four you would understand that one of the primary tools of socialists, or, as Orwell called them "Oligarchic Collectivists" is to distort the language, and eliminate logic that would mean people could understand they are being lied to

so, i hereby recuse from engaging in a conversation with a person who does not know the definition of "capital" and who confuses it with "power" and expects me to assume the same meaning of their words

i wish i could say there was some better option here but Stella bumped me into you and i am a fiercely free market, Misesian person who considers the OLD and ORIGINAL meaning of the german word "Kapital" to mean resources, not power, it is a terrible waste of my time to say one more word to you, unless you are going to do yoru homework.

Wow. What a mesh. I couldn't imagine that, mot even close. No wonder that people are so confused. That being said, i am not the one who has to do homework. And Orwell was precise about oligarchic collectivists. That's all i have to say

Socialism is an alternative to capitalism as potassium cyanide is an alternative to water. The Marxians love of democratic institutions was a stratagem only, a pious fraud for the deception of the masses.

-- Ludwig von Mises - Human Action