Even if xmr privacy was more ideal than lightning, in order for Bitcoiners to use it they still need to use a swap service. I feel like that step in the process is the weak link.
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You mean because Bitcoin has no privacy?
I think that on chain Bitcoin should be transparent, and privacy attained on other "layers". I also think on chain Bitcoin is not for everyday transactions, nor should any block chain be. To keep an on public record of every single transaction is unnecessary.
I saw that you didn't want to try to dox nostr:nprofile1qqszrqlfgavys8g0zf8mmy79dn92ghn723wwawx49py0nqjn7jtmjagpz4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wchszyrhwden5te0dehhxarj9ekk7mf0qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uynmh4h lightning payment. I don't think anyone from the xmr community has stepped up to the challenge.
Personally, I don't have enough knowledge to figure it out on either end, I'm left trusting what others say, and right now it sounds like the privacy on lightning is more than sufficient for my needs and many others. I'd rather stay tied to Bitcoin rather that participate in two systems.
Integrate rather than segregate, decentralize while staying unified.
There are a few people that really understand the cryptographic trade-offs in the areas that we're talking about. Super Testnet has proven that that's the case for him or that he's just lying, frankly.
I agree with you that privacy on Bitcoin layers is going to be very important.
But as someone that does know a little bit about how Monero and Lightning work, if I had to make a transaction for which I wanted to feel as sure as possible that I was not going to be traced, it would not even be close. I would use Monero in a heartbeat.
yeah those are totally reasonable opinions to have ❤️
the main tradeoff IMO is liquidity and administrative overhead in running a LN node.
also the "provability problem." the user cant determine if their privacy is broken on LN.
but i also use LN like you describe and its mostly fine (thanks to nostr:nprofile1qqsrf5h4ya83jk8u6t9jgc76h6kalz3plp9vusjpm2ygqgalqhxgp9gpzfmhxue69uhk7enxvd5xz6tw9ec82cspp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezumrpdejqd2970s)
but when it starts being a larger amount ...
like 500k sats and above, then I use monero.