Did you use Ledn?

I think after the 21st the market things change for the better

With Ledn you can do $500 loans

I like this to start less chance of getting rekt.

Also i wont do bigger loans until bitcoin =1mil or more

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Sounds like you're waiting for the top to get most of your loan. There's only down from there for 4ish years after.

Whatever you do, have enough collateral for a 80% drop plus consider that the fees and interest is always dropping your LTV and then be prepared to deposit that collateral as you start with 50% LTV which protects for up to <40% drop in price (I think).

Good news is I guess you don't need to worry too much about rehypothecation, so you just need to focus on your own risk management.

80% drop means you need a 5x to recover.

Numbers and percentages are always misleading. Unit bias is real.

-80% down = +400% up. Or is it +500%?

Whatever, just be craeful.

Likewise, 5x increase followed by a 80% drop = no profits.

Its mad to get your head around how smaller numbers can wipe out bigger looking numbers. It just isn't intuitive.

As Big Barry said; paraphrasing

Better to get your loan in at a lower, 3-year Bitcoin price average, say $60k, than to try to get a high $ value when Bitcoin is at ~$200k

If you do that, you got enough extra Bitcoin to cover when we fall from $200k to $58k? Which would be ~4.5X the amount of Bitcoin you used as collateral? If so then by all means feel free. But if not, don't take the risk

Most places like Ledn, Unchained, etc have;

- minimum limits (unchain now needs at least 3 coin before they speak with you)

- certain corporate structures (no individual loans)

- maximum LTV (up to 40%, with imo is risky if doing at the top)

You can check out Lava for small amounts, but it comes at a cost

I can do the math

I want to know if people use

Ledn and what the experince was like.

Btw I think I didn't answer your question... Yes I used ledn.