We still have them but they are used to house troubled kids who are too problematic for normie high school instead of kids who are just actually interested in tradecraft who are being funnelled into higher education instead to their great detriment. My sister was a victim of the derangement and I'll never forget it.

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I see. Different use cases. I probably would have ended up in one if I lived there. πŸ˜…

I've just heard talk of it as a non existent or an unserious vocational training in America. Like no one wants to be a carpenter anymore or a metal worker. As if that's a kind of job for immigrants.

I don't know anyone that feels that way, but I know lots of people, as children, that were encouraged to _not_ seek out that kind of profession because they should do something "better." In otherwords, if you seem capable of being an accountant you _shouldn't_ be a carpenter. That's the propaganda that public education teaches. Most people I know have enormous respect for tradesmen but were never given a proper opportunity to consider it for themselves so they frequently become family businesses passed on generation to generation, a number of which have been my clients.