i love signal and proton

signal is a great example of a freedom focused sustainable non profit project

proton is a great example of a freedom focused sustainable for profit business

both are great models for nostr and bitcoin projects

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Love to try

This would hit different in caps

Indeed. No one would take it seriously.

But did nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx share classified government info on signal? 🤣

(Ok, I’ll stop paying attention to news now)

No. He doesn't have those kind of connections.

Smarter than a government worker 🫡

Doubt it.

Harsh

I'm using both and if Matt likes them, I feel good about my choices. 🦾

Lol. Wtf

I can't wait for Nostr to be commercialized. That's the only way users will ever have a real voice in product development.

You're going to be waiting a long time

And? Revolutions don't happen overnight.

Most of the time they never happen.

Most of the time they never happen.

Do you have an actual point or are you just looking to have a vague argument?

My point is, there will never be a nostr revolution

You can just build things.

That's such a boring take. No one has the time to build every single product they use.

#YESTR

Signal is great for all kinds of conversations. Weekend plans, wedding planning, bombing countries, etc

The what 😂

I'm using both 😄

I think proton is a nonprofit thought, right?

it is a unique structure, a for profit business with a non profit foundation that owns shares

https://proton.me/support/who-owns-protonmail

Ah, gotcha

Proton or Tuta? Be honest

proton

used tuta for years, disappointing

Proton. Better ecosystem.

Same, using Proton for over a year, not just email but also Drive and Calendar

Proton is great!

Signal just needs to add Lighting

Been using proton as well. Not really ecstatic about the Proton Wallet though…

do both of these companies have to comply with laws in their jurisdictions?

yes

do they have teams of lawyers advising them?

yes

is Matt correct here?

also yes

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Just reading through this amazing text makes me realize how much I still have to learn and that learning truly never ends. If you stop learning you stop living. Thanks for making me grow and reflect. I’m learning a lot

I prefer simplex to signal

Signal would be even more sustainable if they just accepted bitcoin donations

i think they will add donations eventually and hopefully a full bitcoin wallet for p2p transactions

i still donate to them regardless

I am prefering Threema to Signal. They have an interesting business mode, they have a Libre version that you can pay with Bitcoin (on-chain only) and it even supports notifications on Graphene without Google Play Services.

Once I watched a YouTube video you were involved in and I thought “this guy seems bright” but you continue to talk…..

I use them both every single day

What's your opinion on Tuta?

The permissions required to run Signal scream honeypot. It's not a privacy app. Plus, the founder is basically anti-bitcoin.

Proton : it's just one step away from temporary mails for me. I use it when temp mails don't work. For anything private, I don't use email. Ever since they decided to collaborate with a mossad-connected security company (for that DDoS they had some years back), I've been suspicious about them.

For most things private, Simplex seems better at this point.

whats up nostriches, shoot me a follow if you are a bitcoiner, looking for plebs to engage with on here

Same. For years.