It’s about people like #[3]​ who have been very vocal recently about the “need” to rid the new user experience of anything having to do with bitcoin because it might scare them away.

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he’s right, it will

the social nostr app that will be the most successful for mainstream is the one that hides all that on default

we knows zaps work, but not everyone is ready for them, and so they’ll just go somewhere else

here’s and example from Bluesky

If Joe Weisenthal is your sample base you’ll have to forgive me for LMAO-ing at any conclusion you draw from that survey. Bitcoin and Nostr are revolutionary together and enable something the world has never had. If there is a money better suited to the task then someone ought to be creating a NIP for integrating it.

Here’s another

Nostr is global. Can you name somewhere on the globe that does have a problem with censorship?

I can think of a few and I’m sure you can too. I can also think of a few topics that were censored nearly everywhere in recent years. If you can’t understand Nostr’s focus on censorship-resistance then you’ve been living under a rock.

I’m expressing an opinion. The beauty of this platform is that we can do that without censorship and people can choose what client they use.

That said, I think you misunderstand me. I’ll write up later. Out now.

Mainstream doesn’t care about - without censorship.

They just want discoverability, algos, and reach.

Facts.

You are confident that you know what everyone wants?

not everyone, just look at what’s popular and listen to what they want

nostr not being about bitcoin will grow it quicker

Twitter wasn’t about Bitcoin, but it formed, and honestly Bitcoin Twitter is a hot mess right now, glad the community is here supporting devs with zaps.

But seeing Jack’s mom say good morning here is what people are after imo. Just a fun, positive place to visit online that’s not full of garbage.

If Twitter and Bluesky are ever going to be nostr clients someday, then there’s a lot of work still to be done that’s not at all about Bitcoin.

That is a fine reason to be on Nostr. But you’re missing about 99.99% of Nostr’s use cases by limiting it to that. For those uses and person-to-person interactions that do inevitably involve money, as so often happens in life, how do you achieve that more effectively than with bitcoin?

My buddy explicitly wants censorship. He has no interest in seeing the crazy stuff people say online. Actually negative interest - it stresses him out. This is why I think it’s important to eventually have client options that block according to individual preferences.

Users having the ability to individually block and mute is very different from attempting to ban certain words and topics for every new user by default.

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I think I convinced him he’s better off having total control over what he sees, the ability to audit it, edit it etc.

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It’s a very privileged opinion to suggest you should be free to express what you choose while preventing others from seeing certain topics upon arrival.

do you think there should be a Lightning wallet linked to your nostr client before your first post?

It’s a functional feature. If you want to receive payments then you need one. Otherwise you don’t.

How is it privileged? I’m not a developer and don’t make any clients. If someone decides they see logic in what I’m saying and implement it - that’s their initiative, I’m not responsible for their actions.

No, you are responsible for your words and the ideas for which you advocate. Being a dev or not has nothing to do with it. I call your mindset and opinion privileged because by making such suggestions, you blatantly ignore the very reasons Nostr and bitcoin exist. You either don’t have a real need for Nostr and bitcoin (which makes you privileged) or you don’t actually understand them.