What Trump is doing to Ukraine is kinda fucked up. Not a fan of war but he doesn’t need to be a dick about it.

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He’s a scammer and opportunist what do you expect lmao

How is he a scammer? I feel sorry for his people more than anything

He literally just did a shitcoin pump and dump as president elect šŸ˜‚ but he’s a well known crook. Has outright stiffed literally hundreds of contractors who have done construction work for him and launched NFT scams before his shitcoins. Going to start a crypto exchange too. Garbage human.

Ohh I thought you were talking about about zelanskky lol… agree with you on Trump… he has little redeeming qualities these days

War is a business. Always has been.

True but a disgusting business at that…

AGREED! Ukraine is literally trying to fight for their sovereignty away from Russia’s dictatorship.

And Trump had the audacity to offer ā€œpeaceā€ deals with Ukraine by demanding mineral rights.

Right!! It’s disgusting to be honest. Americans during the revolution were in the same situation and we had allies that supplied weapons and didn’t have another country negotiating a surrender on our behalf… Ukraine deserves better to be honest.

don't be retards.

I’m not.

government is mafia so he do what has bean expected. he is at least sincere about being dick.

Nah

Hey friend,

Are we doing it wrong to understand the likely outcomes of the situation are WWIII or negotiated peace and then choose sides accordingly?

Hey friend, how does this lead to WW3? It hasn’t happened so far over the last three years what makes now more dangerous than before?

I feel if the world lets Russia get away with this ww3 is more likely to happen than not. China will definitely make a move Taiwan and could see NK make a move on SK..

My friend,

Do I understand that your belief is there are more options than WWIII or negotiated peace? I would be interested in understanding what you think those options there are. I can think of two other options that I don't believe to be likely outcomes 1) sustained and perpetual violence along the Ukrainian/Russian boarder or 2) a victory of one side over the the other.

If negotiated peace is not to be considered a likely outcome, then escalated violence to secure a victory remains the only likely solution to my way of understanding. That is what I call WWIII. The grind of perpetual violence is no substitute for victory in the rhetoric of powerful people, and they will not be stymied by dark beliefs of probable outcomes. Help me understand other ways to see this.

I think a protracted war of attrition is the more likely scenario. As long as Ukraine is given weapons they are willing to go toe to toe with Russia. I don’t see why things have to escalate to a WW3 scenario to be honest.

The Taliban held out against the US for 20 years and ended up leaving. Who is to say Ukraine couldn’t wage a low intensity insurgency to drain Russia dry…

All Ukraine has to do is not lose. Russia can’t sustain this tempo forever. Look at its economy and how much it spends on defense. They need a ceasefire more than Ukraine.

I don’t believe the conditions under which Ukraine could be perpetually sustained as a war fighting entity exist, which make endless war a less likely that other outcomes. Rome held out longer than the Taliban as the masters of their fate, but eventually things changed.

Crazier things have happened… I think their desire to not be taken over by Russia is pretty high. Obviously they are willing to die to stay free…

There are few things in the world that I believe are true, but one thing I will never doubt, that is the people running the government will not hesitate to grind us all into gore in their bloody battlefield and lie to us about the nobility of their intentions. Liberty is always what the authority says it is. Freedom is choosing to believe it or not.

I agree with you on that