Can you just plainly, simply explain why filling out a form is the lynchpin for you to whether or not the receipt of money is either okay or not okay?
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Here's as plain and simple as I can make it for you: you're asking me to enter a lottery where I pay with time that's worth more than a lottery ticket and personal info that's also worth more than - guess what - this thing that they have at the store already any time I want one, a lottery ticket
You say someone has to be extremely productive for this to apply - I ask you to do the math on what returns anyone from a welfare recipient to a billionaire will get, spending an amount of time filling out forms for grants, and do the same math for them spending the equivalent amount of money they accrue in the same time, on lottery tickets
If you wouldn't suggest buying a lottery ticket, why would you suggest filling out the form?
You said "no" but that was actually extremely clear.
You feel that spending a few minutes and sharing a bit of personal information is not worth the expected payoff (where you think your odds are as good as the lottery). Okay, that makes sense.
And it's far clearer and to the point than a lot of the other concerns you brought up.
I think the conclusion is the same: If you think a system is an unwinnable lottery, don't play it. Nobody will blame you for that! a fair choice!
Still a bit confused about why you're wasting dozens of minutes preaching to the lottery company about how they should change their model, though... It's sorta like twitter/nostr - would you waste your time telling twitter they should be more like nostr? or would you prefer to just go invest in nostr? just ignore OpenSats and pay attention to other entities that work like you'd prefer.
Yeah I'm not sure about laeserin thinking she can convince opensats to change their model, I just like talking to all you people
I have little confidence that I can change their model or influence them in any manner, at all.
I just wanted to make it clear that there might be a better model, even if mine isn't it, and I wanted the others to know that they are not alone.
You see this? You see this?
I am not getting paid for this.
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🙄 the Satan thing again. Almost had a discussion about a normal topic without you veering into the supernatural.
But it's some weird personality flaw of mine that sees you as overly influenced by religion, right? Okay.
Thinking about it more, laeserin was getting at a better explanation from the start
It's about bias
If forms are the system, it's biased in favor of devs who will fill out forms
Those are devs who have time to check if the form seems worth filling out, devs who feel comfy giving the form whatever info it asks for
I think if you're trying to bias your pool of devs in favor of the best ones you probably don't want to filter out the ones you're filtering out there
Why do you want a system biased in favor of devs who have time and trust these forms?
Yes, the form itself is a sort of test. What is it testing for?
The word "conform" contains the word "form", after all.
Obvious reasons.
someone has to do the discovery work. Either the fund does it (finds devs) or the developers do it (applies to the fund). There has to be a selection process somewhere. So either the devs can self-select or the fund can go searching through all Nostr projects on earth.
So it's about incentives. The fund isn't going to spend extra energy to ALSO give away money. Theyre already "spending" a ton. So the developers are incentivized to surface themselves up; to "spend" comparatively little (time) to make themselves known and potentially gain a lot.
The filtering and selection has to happen somewhere. "hey developer who wants free money, make yourself known to me by writing a little bit on this public form and I'll read all the submissions" is far lower friction and cheaper than "okay let me scour the whole fucking internet to find a place to lose a bunch of cash."