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Let me start with the climate stuff, I should have warned you about that. That part leads me to question Greer's intentions. Maybe he only included that because the majority of people in that particular audience are believers in CC and so he wanted to impress that we have the answers already, and maybe that would create a sense of haste-a useful fear of sorts. I can't be sure. To the geopolitical end and the MIT professor, I truly believe both are financial motivations first, power incentive second. National order incentive third. How many linemen would be out of work just in the United States alone if legacy generation infrastructure was rendered obsolete? How many incomes, pensions, purposes of men, would be erased in a matter of years? Too many for the infrastructure and jobs market to survive. I believe that transition would be followed by a very serious depression, the same one that is pending today. The only question is which domino will bring down the castle, and I do believe that one is just big enough. It also brings to mind Howard Zinn's perspective of social unrest-the powerless and governed vs the powerful and governing-that those linemen are often well armed, intelligent and physically powerful good ole boys. You put all of America's bluest of blue collar out of work and purpose and bet we won't see an uprising. I bet you would lose your money. This has always been my perspective too: Nostr provides a means for this sort of information to become distributed. If some nostrich finds a way to tap zero point energy and others believe them, employ their tech, and begin to spread it to their neighbors through word of mouth, there will be no turning off the spigot. This has been attempted before on X, fb, all the legacy socials right before they were shut down, and as you saw, likely silenced by force. It is a matter of time before the btc mining industry finds time to develop something themselves. Maybe they'll harness that and keep their mouths shut as their incentives suggests. But the cat will not stay in the bag forever.

Another good resource-to what proportion of validity, I can't be sure- I am listening to now. If you find time, I think you would find it very interesting and touches on this subject and more.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4ak1DzfqrHZeGb0DT45utd

Thank you, sir, for taking the time, and spread the word.

Kudzai Kutukwa 2w ago 💬 1

Yeah the climate stuff is definitely something that led me to believe that if Greer really believes this stuff, then his whole framing of the problem is bollocks or he took money from the green lobby to make the doccie so he had to give them a hat tip somehow lol (in addition to the reasons you stated). Either way, it almost ruined what was an almost perfect doccie. I know Greer is a UFO/Alien guy, but i think that, that's a cover story for the most part for concealing this advanced tech and add a layer of mysticism around the whole thing. What's your take on that? Especially considering that in the 70s the Rand Corporation put out the following paper :

https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/papers/2008/P4874.pdf

I actually think that Power is the first incentive, then financial and national security rah rah last. Slight deviation from your outline and here's why i look at it this way. Power > Money imho, though the two are intertwined. Central banks today control the money supply because that's the source of their power, which they use to control every other resource on the planet; with money being the means to an end. It's an overly simplified framework, but bear with me for now. Assuming that model to be true, energy being the chief economic input in an industrialized world; whoever is able to produce and harness a ton of it more than everyone else not only has a power advantage but a monetary one as well. Most of the jobs today would definitely disappear once you unleash "free energy" but a ton more jobs would also be created, probably more than what was lost. More so when you consider the positive correlation between energy production and economic prosperity.

The problem is once the cat is out of the bag, it won't be long before the "enemies of the west" (Russians, Chinese, Ayatollahs etc.,) reverse engineer this tech and catch on, which means the liberal world order will not be able to sanction these regimes as it could before (e.g. once North Korea got nukes they couldn't be bullied anymore). I think to the powers that be, who care nothing for national politics, an energy abundant world represents a world they can't control, in the same way that they despise Bitcoin because it takes away their power to print at will. You and I both know that while a lot of fiat industries and institutions would die when the world would be on a btc standard, on balance the world will definitely be better off without fiat. Thank you for the additional link, will also add it to my playlist and revert.

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Detective Deft Defector 2w ago 💬 1

I have no doubt he was able to finagle a deal like that. Making movies is of course expensive. But agreed, that's my biggest contention with it as well. Funny how Bitcoin added into the mix makes all of their incentives stronger. If Bitcoin is tied to energy and energy is free, how many people who make the "it uses too much energy"argument would eat their words and even start stacking? The more they have to fight to keep the reins, the more they get emotional. The more emotional, the less rational. We're basically using their own tactics against them 😂

I think you're probably right. Power then money. Once you're friends with Davos and the CIA, money is nothing and power is everything. The flaw in the jobs thinking I believe is that you're operating under the assumption that they want everyone working. They know damn well Central planning inhibits growth and jobs. What they want is for the masses to quit breeding. As I'm sure you've seen me say, less people=less resistance. The power advantage thing leads me to think of breakaway civilizations which there is absolutely evidence for. Not only Lockheed Skunkworks, but that's what the hippies were. Children of the intelligence industry playing with consciousness and creating their own world that turned into the black market, the rainbow family, and also intelligence. Imagine 60 years later those same implications with reverse engineered tech, ufos, drones. Yet another one worth giving a listen that touches on that.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/6q7A5FGoDbtJbBRptnXfnD

The enemies issue is absolutely my biggest fear. We've played these power games too long and too arrogantly and now, even if we find peace, it'll be generations before the grudges subside and we don't end up blowing each other up full scale. Granted, Putin for instance showed incredible restraint toward the end of the Biden era, I doubt we'll find such peace loving sentiments forever. A tangent system seems like our only real option to disenfranchise these narcissistic hell spawn and, if that works, if we can pull the rug carefully enough and thoroughly enough, then all that free energy will actually become a viable option.

Kudzai Kutukwa 2w ago

You are definitely right to say that the central planners definitely want to gradually limit population and keep the rest of the people that will be living in their hell, on a very tight leash hence all the UBI proposals. The tensions that have been stoked btwn the West and the rest of the world are definitely a major driving force in a lot of these decisions that lead to key technologies being suppressed. Putin’s restraint is admirable especially given how many years they have been provoking him, whoever comes after him may not be as chilled.

The pod with Tim is spot on!! That dude is definitely a modern Indiana Jones. His depth of knowledge on a ton of topics is just mind blowing to say the least. Definitely worth listening again.