😂 damn, everyone’s been swindled

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https://simplex.chat/ is FOSS, does not require phone number, does not require a central identity

Oh I think I saw that logo here on Nostr before.

Should I really download a 9th communication app? 😭

How is it?

It works well, at least for the few times I have personally used it

Wish everyone I speak to had Nostr so we could all communicate with our app of choice and it still function

I think there are a few people that are trying to implement the SimpleX idea as Nostr DMs. That would be good

I’m with you though, Nostr is superior to everything else I have used. I just wish it was easier to find people to interact with

That would be so cool!

Problem will be solved eventually

I’m working on a way for people to find relays that are for their interests or community.

But I think right now most relays are just broadly available with no preference on what community they want to create (other than some language specific tags)

I’m gonna start reaching out to relay operators and ask them to explicitly add community preferences to their relay metadata so that people might start congregating by interest/community/locale and discovering folks via the relay global feed or replies they only see because of the relays they’re on.

It’s slow work because most discovery work seem to default contribute to centralisation.

That’s a brilliant idea!

I think that would also be a solution to retaining the intimate community feeling we have now while adoption increases

Couldn’t agree more

Thanks! All that needs to change is for relay operators to add community preferences (it’s a config file update for the person hosting the relay ). Just need to reach out to relay operators to see if they’re interested.

And then folks could use my https://relay.guide to find people by those preferences.

Still working on a few performance improvements and a filter by community preferences. But I’m doing both things in parallel.

Best part is relay operators with community preferences don’t need to moderate people out that don’t fit in the community preference, it’s just about drawing in people that care about similar things.

That sounds really awesome! Let me know when you start reaching out. Maybe we can generate some hype so they have to give the people what they want haha. Happy to help with that if I can!

I’ve been thinking about building relays (ideally sustainable paid options). Hit me up if this would be of use to you

Absolutely. I saw relaying.io for mostly personal use. But I want an easy to deploy relay service.

It could be as easy as a render blueprint http://onrender.com

But that’s hardly cost effective 😂 even if you charge for admissions and publication of events.

Is this a standalone relay or a service that sets one up?

It’s a project to create a relay that’s easy to host and manage as Nostr scales. It’s a good relay as is but there’s work being done to improve it to make it the easiest to manage (which might be more important than being the fastest or cheapest to host)

There is a bounty out for encrypted DMs (i.e: Don’t leak who you are privately communicating with).

It would be 🔥 if simplex was somehow integrated as the private DM NIP.

Yeah that’s what I was thinking of, hopefully there are a lot of people working on it because it would be cool to have the services integrated

We started testing with Damus team. It works. There are less features.

I don’t have a phone number tied to all my messages, and this data therefore does not exist and is not mined/sold (as far as I understand).

The question is how important is FOSS and the above to you? Important enough to use, or important enough to convert your friends and family 🙂?

Fair question.

I think it would be easier to convert friends and family to damus because I’m thinking there are other selling points

I would agree, Damus looks close enough to twitter that it would be an easy switch. I’ve converted one person to SimpleX and he’s already privacy focussed

I'm not sure nostr is even that private for direct messages tho.