Well, it's still something we'll have to deal with: How do we get nostr clients delivered to the less technical users. Has anybody ever tested Astral on Internet Explorer? #[2]? If FF flags a free image hoster, it will also flag all nostr apps. And so will Chrome and Safari. Seriously, what's our plan here?
I've been working on a progressive web app client as Play- and AppStore will require deplatforming but PWA is Chromium-only and pre-compiled chromiums will also block us.
Librewolf, Brave?
Brave needs to dump their shitcoin
No excuses
For people who use Android there is a project which looks good and which is available on F-Droid through their own repository, it is Bromite. There are some cons when we compare it to Brave, like a limited number of search engines, but it could be an alternative.
FDroid is already very niche. I want our average non-technical friends to easily discover nostr. I want nostr to replace Twitter.
Sorry, I missed your point.
I just tried Astral.ninja and void.cat on Firefox, it seems to work fine to me. Tested on Firefox in Lineageos.
Maybe it's my environment. What didn't work exactly?
It works good for now but just as we expect PlayStore and AppStore to ban nostr apps that undo nostr's censorship-resistance, major browsers **will in the future** mark nostr sites as dangerous.
I may be living in my bubble but do you have any past reference in your mind of browsers marking websites as dangerous? Besides certificates being expired I have never seen that so I think it is unlikely. Search engines like google though I think are more a nuisance.
This thread was in reply of an example: #[3]
Warnings like this translate into 90% less users.
I find Brave very shady, not only for their shitcoinery. Didn't they inject their own ads, replacing other ads?
That feature is opt in for rewards I believe. Still agree that the shitcoinery is shady.
That feature still is sold as doing something good while it deprives websites of their ad revenue while not even sparing the client the nuisance of ads.
By replacing other ads instead of just slapping their ads on top, they make it palatable for the users but it's disgusting.
The whole concept was always to block ads and replace with an opt in model for users. There are ethical questions there of course, but I think they were at least clear about those intentions from the start. I don’t agree with the business model, but given that it’s opt in I don’t see it as much worse than any ad blocker that takes revenue from websites. Frankly I bet a lot of people around here would be more supportive of brave if they implemented the exact same model over lightning…
For me it's outright theft of ad revenue and I will never support its use. I'm not up to date on all this but I would support Google suing Brave over this.
A user has to make a decision to use brave and opt-in to ads, which redirects revenue - I see no legal problem with what brave has done.
There are lots of ethical concerns about brave’s business model, brave’s token usage, and also the data usage by ads deployed on most websites, which are by default not opt-in.
lol, I think that’s pretty funny
Really? That is the shadiest of the shady.
