There's really no single ratio for everyone. My main objection to the general culture is that I should sacrifice for others. Doing what I need to for those I love and myself is not a sacrifice. Busting my nuts so someone else can get rich (with little gain for myself) is a sacrifice. Honestly, it's just more of the fiat way of life. Work work work forever and still die broke. That's what I see for most people in that culture. It's super fiat. We can be high quality producers without running ourselves into the ground for someone else. That's mostly what I mean. I don't mean the people who choose to do that for themselves. But that's a super small set of the culture. Like NFL type shit. It's not the average.
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What you described is meaningful work for you and your family. You aren't sacrificing your life just to get nowhere.
But I do reject the notion for MY life that I need to maximize every waking minute of my life for someone else or for some goal. Now I've also frontloaded my life in my 20s to get to this point. It's not like I was owed this mentality. But I did that consciously with the intent of doing what I want to do with my time (we all have to do shit we may not want to at some point, that's not what I mean).
If you were sacrificing your values (family, health, etc) hustling and bustling, that's what I would mean. People get married and then work so much they never see their spouse or kids. End up divorced or sick. Stuff like that. I don't want that. I'm okay with being a millionaire instead of a billionaire if it means I can be happy and healthy. That's what I mean. But this is about ME. My definitions and values aren't necessarily for YOU. Hustle culture in general isn't for ME.
> But I do reject the notion for MY life that I need to maximize every waking minute of my life for someone else or for some goal.
This... Learning this myself. Personal topic for another time, but yes.
> If you were sacrificing your values (family, health, etc) hustling and bustling, that's what I would mean. People get married and then work so much they never see their spouse or kids. End up divorced or sick. Stuff like that. I don't want that. I'm okay with being a millionaire instead of a billionaire if it means I can be happy and healthy. That's what I mean. But this is about ME. My definitions and values aren't necessarily for YOU. Hustle culture in general isn't for ME.
I can't agree more.
We live in a culture with low average self esteem, heavily dependent on and encouraging external validation. Learning to rely less on the external world to provide your happiness is not easy, but I think is essential and possibly the only real way to break out of the rat race. That an financial literacy XD
Oh yeah I understand now! An aside, I recently got into sports for the players. I still believe a lot is up to chance, but I still admire the dedication and effort to the performance. It's not something many can/will do.
Back on your topic though: I tend to see that in the labor/construction field. Work your satchel off 80+ hour weeks, avoid seeing your family, never around to help friends etc. Fiat hourly rates even with O/T have the same spending habits and so on. There is a difference in the low time preference hustle if that's what you're referring to. Just work extra hours, or maybe flip a car or something on the side.