Think I'll write my next article on Bluesky, how it appears to have ripped ideas straight from Nostr, and why it'll always be a failed platform
Discussion
Tbh I wish nostr did feeds as well as bluesky :)
Yeah, there are some good parts about Bluesky, but a lot of things I don't like about it
Do you also know about highlighter.com as another place for your articles/reviews? ;)
Think this could make a good series. Next up, farcaster and Urbit :)
I didn't, but now I have something to explore later when I'm back home. That's pretty cool that there's just this interface for blogging built into the network. Been paying to self host Wordpress since the beginning of the year, and it's been a little bit costly
There's a few. I've not really properly used them.
Articles / long notes appear within feeds:)
nostr:naddr1qqgx6dr4va6kwufnx9n82efkxasnjq3qnjst6azswskk5gp3ns8r6nr8nj0qg65acu8gaa2u9yz7yszjxs9sxpqqqp65w84v2x4
The other client I can think of that does this is: habla.news
I finally got how ATProto works on a basic conceptual level from this paper
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2402.03239
Having been none the wiser from reading the spec and other confused ppl on hacker news
That's my first gripe with Bluesky
Nostr and ActivityPub can both be understood in 5 minutes from reading their specs
ActivityPub is particularly well written
And it's not that ATProto is conceptually complex
But anyways, I appreciated the architecture of ATProto from a pure architecture point of view
But I think it's flawed in practical terms
Decentralization is small, many, cheap
ATProto is expensive
To develop applications for
And to run services on
And increasingly so the more decentralized it becomes
It's got a natural brake on decentralization
I'm going to sign up for Bluesky as I'm curious what the culture is like
Be interested to read your article!
Write it direct to nostr 🐸
There's this comparison article (written by a Bluesky user) very recently:
https://shreyanjain.net/2024/07/05/nostr-and-atproto.html
Just in case this is useful to you
Thank you 😁 I’ll add this as a source
it is a great article!
in particular I think a lot of the ideas in both nostr and atproto come from SSB and prior systems. atproto was also pretty informed by ActivityPub; I don't think there was much direct atproto/nostr cross-pollination, though there has been interest in the labeling system
I know nothing but I would suspect bluesky is probably mostly unaware of what goes on on nostr, nevermind copying. A lot of the opinions Ive seen about nostr from bluesky users tend to be along the lines of 'bit isn't it full of Nazis? Don't you have to pay bitcoin to use it? I've not actually used it tho'.
Having been here a little tiny bit I’m real confused about where the “nazi” assumption is coming from
I don't get it either. I occasionally look at Instagram, the comment section there is for the most part, far far worse and consistently worse than nostr.
(Not that I'm saying Instagram is a nazi platform lol).
AT and bluesky users: “bitcoiners + censorship resistance = Nazi”
nostr users: “bluesky = twitter2.0”
zero nuance from both sides 💀
Wait, were you on there when I was? Do you remember "blocked by pfrazee"
I've felt like I vaguely recognized you from somewhere and now I wonder if it was bluesky. Or maybe back when I first joined nostr and searched for posts about bluesky I saw you. But it makes me uneasy because everyone on bluesky hated me and if I remember you from there it could be from negative interactions where I can no longer see what happened due to my ban. I was a disciple of bitdizzy, does she ring a bell?
Me? I never posted on there. Maybe once. But my posts are bridged to there with the Bridgey fed thing
I don't know who that is. But maybe you're not asking me? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Thank you for answering! It's either de ja vu (probably from your pfp being used elsewhere) or I simply saw you on nostr back when I was on bluesky. Thank gosh 🤙
It might seem odd that I was worried about it, but literally thousands of people blocked me on bluesky and my followers never got past low triple digits, so when you combine that with getting banned and not having all my posts archived (or perfect memory) it creates some paranoia about re-encountering people from there
Bluesky have perfected the art of blocklists and autoblocking via keywords. It truly is blocksky lol:)
Okay, now I'm reading this and it's actually very interesting, and clearing up some initial misconceptions I had about the emergence of ATP and its possible relation to Nostr