Nostr Web Client

Why?

Thanks nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m for taking interest.

It’s due to cost mainly.

Costs peaked $593 USD in March when Eden was still geographically distributed and we averaged over 900 connections on each node for their respective time zones. We’ve since taken costs down, and the bills totalled $217 in the month of June.

Granted there have been some issues accepting payments in the last month mainly because Eden is running on less resources, but even so new signups tanked way before that to one or two a day.

We’ve got this far and we should have been able to turn things around however for me in particular work and personal life responsibilities have taken priority now more than ever, and that meant less time to code up new revenue streams in a timely manner.

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Sync 2y ago 💬 2

Thanks for the Followup 🫡transparant and honest 🫂

Cameri🐦‍🔥 2y ago 💬 1

I wanted to but it was late for me and I wanted to get the numbers right before answering.

Maybe there’s hope in saving Eden for everyone.

Landy 2y ago 💬 1

Have you considered a subscription model? How many users are on your relay?

I’m sure you have considered the option but it’s just a thought

Cameri🐦‍🔥 2y ago

Yes of course, and prepaid as well.

Sync 2y ago

Thanks for giving the numbers a good rest 🤘I’ve been thinking of running a relay for awhile now but also don’t see how the operating cost / subsriber fee balances out.

Just tossing something in the 🔥.. but maybe Eden could be a foundation / non profit funded by some donations. It sounds allot like centralisation though 😅but somebody has to be footing the bill for the non relay paying plebs or do I have things backwards?🙃

Anyways I thank you for your service 🫡 and may your new responsibilities bring you a 🖖

Colby Serpa 2y ago

This is why I’m so interested in the Sats4Files model where users pay per byte… rate-limited style.

Sats4Files automatically swaps data for #bitcoin over Lightning by hiding the file’s decryption key as the Time-Locked Contract’s preimage.

Micropayments under-the-hood, monthly payment accumulates. These arbitrary monthly prices may not be sustainable for relays.

I’ve been working constantly on Sats4Files over the last week or two, trying to find a way to make it faster as it relies on many 32 byte elliptic curve operations. Wish me luck! 🍀

rejon 2y ago 💬 1

Will you continue to develop your relay software?

Cameri🐦‍🔥 2y ago

Sure, I’m focused on another project right now but I am going to continue running a relay privately.

Schnitzel 2y ago

Happy to help to run and maintain the relay (if there is interest from you nostr:npub1qqqqqqyz0la2jjl752yv8h7wgs3v098mh9nztd4nr6gynaef6uqqt0n47m )

Have been running my own relay since the beginning on nostream and also building a service that will offer hosted nostr relays: https://freedomtech.hosting got 15+ experience in application hosting and enough servers to handle the load. DMd you :)

QW 2y ago

Thanks for the response nostr:npub1qqqqqqyz0la2jjl752yv8h7wgs3v098mh9nztd4nr6gynaef6uqqt0n47m

It helps us all build forward. 🫡

⚡️ᗪㄖ匚⚡️ 2y ago 💬 1

Thanks for helping bootstrap the early days and for being an innovator for the paid relay model. Keep us updated with your work, im sure you’ll be doing something else groundbreaking soon!

tanel 2y ago

what does the “backup and restore” process regarding notes look like?

Julio 2y ago 💬 1

Thank you so much for running the relay.

It was one of the first ones I added & Angela and yourself were always incredibly helpful.

Completely understand your decision, sometimes priorities change.

🫂

Cameri🐦‍🔥 2y ago

🫂