Phoenix is really good and I recommend it to people, however:

- extreme form of "non-custodial centealizarion"

- very very bad privacy

- actually super expensive

I think it's smarter to use Zeus with your own Lightning node on a server at this point.

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(I know that's not an alternative to most users of Phoenix, but as a tech savvy person, you don't have to put up with these kinda strong compromises)

0.4% is super expensive?

It is when you compare it to running your own node. They changed for receiving and for sending so, yes, it's expensive.

*charge

„very very bad privacy“

why is that?

Indeed.

NWC + own node and/or a self-hosted AlbyHub are also great alternatives

Anyone who can live with the fact that I can rug you, feel free to use https://bb.mountainlake.io/ or use a cashu wallet with my mint at https://mint.mountainlake.io. I don't charge any fees on top of the lightning network itself. And keep in mind that I will be sailing til mid September and therefore can't offer the same support as in the winter months.

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Phoenix's 0.4% outbound payment fee means during low fee environments sending $100 on chain is actually cheaper than sending $100 using phoenix. The UI/UX is really good though.

Yeah, I've spliced out of my channel more than once because it was cheaper to do than to send via Lightning. Feels weird.

>- extreme form of "non-custodial centealizarion"

I feel like this is an inevitable tradeoff for large scale retail solutions.

You need a service provider to shoulder the channel management load and provide the necessary UX abstractions.

I'm also somewhat hopeful ARK can significantly mitigate the costs of self-custodial LN.