Assholes like you are the ones who are cool because they have more followers and there are people who naively listen to them! You tell people not to follow me anymore and people listen to you. People who listen to you are sadder than you are. You're a worm! All of us should know that you are cyberbullying me just because we had something to say. Forhon't you tell everyone the truth? And then explain to me something new users can't grow? If they grow up, do they bother you for a long time? Pig
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I don't care how many followers I have, it is of no importance to me. I have been here for over 2 years contributing authentic notes and honestly interacting with others using my own words, photos and art. Do the same and you will find your community here.
It's what I was doing before you ordered all your fucking disciples without balls to take away my follow I don't know for what reason. What time do I do a zap4follow? For that merit of being censored? This is censorship. You are worse than mainstream journalists
I've been here for over 2 years, helping authentic users with their problems and giving them advice on how to use Nostr and have success finding their community here in an organic, non scammy way. I've tried to help you as well. Instead of listening you ignored my help, and call me names.
You're just a fucking censor who orders other people what they have to do! You don't even know what freedom is! What are you doing on this social network?
I didn't order anyone to do anything, just pointed out what I have noticed. People are free to do as they wish, as I am free to offer my opinion. I cannot censor you.
Once again I will offer my sincere advice. Rather than engage in scammy influencer tactics to gain followers, be authentic, and you will gain followers organically. You don't need to buy friends. Be real, and find your community here. It's that simple.
You should go to work for Facebook! You ordered 100 people to remove my follow. And since you are more authoritative than me (in the eyes of the people here) they all listened to you like little dogs. Go see my profile. What's not authentic??? I post photos of my daughter, of my life, of the places I visit. Do I post every day on ₿? Because I do a follow4zap every now and then I deserve to be annihilated by you who randomly decide that my profile should be annihilated? This is censorship my friend
I called out corndalorian for crying for zaps a while back. He got triggered and muted me. Some people agreed with me and others thought I was being an asshole. Zap for follow is just as cringe as crying for zaps on memes imo. But there isn’t anything malicious with either. One is making memes for sats and the other is offering sats for follows. If he’s going to pay sats for follows then I guess that’s fine. It’s like paying for ads to get people to follow your instagram. It’s not great quality follows but it’s not malicious. And I think using LLMs to communicate is inauthentic. It’s low quality content but is it scammy? I wouldn’t say that but I would agree that Ryan’s advice to not use those tactics is solid. Eventually people would’ve unfollowed if it really bothered them. There was an npub I had to unfollow recently because all the posts were just asking for sats to feed their kids. I don’t think that’s scammy but it’s just annoying.
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I'm kinda being an asshole to make a point today, but I believe my advice is sound.
lol fun. I re-followed you now.
this is fun.
I don't agree this is "censorship", but it's ... something.
I swear it's an unfair thing that's been done to me! The gentleman should go to work for Facebook. I would see it well to cover people's mouths
There is no censorship, but there is unlimited clowning on unnatural growth - those burned by this behavior have decided to fight back. Actually seems quite natural. Doesn't matter the intention if you've seen the end results many times
Literally nostr's immune system in action. Sure, you can have an overreaction but its the result of adapting to previous events.
my most charitable reading is that the account in question is not a native English speaker, probably over-uses LLMs and emojis, and might have engaged in some questionable practices in the past but is not a "scammer".
That's why I have tried to help this user in the past. I've mentioned to them numerous times why zap4follow is bad for Nostr, and advised them on ways to grow their account more naturally.
fair. I'm still going to continue following him, though. how will we know if he changes his ways otherwise?
WoT shouldn't work on follows, anyway. I should be able to follow someone in order to see their notes, whether I trust them deeply or hate and distrust them entirely. it just means I want to see their notes. we need better ways to represent reputation and trust that aren't follow-related (ahem, grape rank, cough cough nostr:nprofile1qqsw2feday2t6vqh2hzrnwywd9v6g0yayejgx8cf83g7n3ue594pqtcpr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmqprfmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuarpwpjhxarj0yhxu6twdfssz9mhwden5te0dehhxarj9enx6apwwa5h5tnzd9aqhdwwcj)
I'm in 💯 agreement on that. A follow means nothing, just that a button has been clicked one time. Hopefully we see more of a move toward multiple lists, and using something else for trust. I wish I had a "trusted users" list, that I could add people I have met IRL, and users whom I've had extensive interactions with to. Follows don't really mean much.
Most follows aren't even the result of clicking the "follow" button, people just get onboarded with them.
That's a good point ☝️
That's why there's a subset of npubs with a sky-high and steadily-increasing number of followers, that hardly ever post anything.
I've been protesting the Tyranny of Follows, for a while; that's why I hardly have any. It pisses everyone off and makes me look rude, but
#PurpleKonnektiv is going to add attestation abilities to the meetup app. 🤙
I’m glad to hear that! What types of attestations? The more high quality trust signals become available, the easier it will be to supplant follows as a source of trust signal.
Augment may be a better word than supplant. The more data sources we have, the better.
We first just did badges, but that's really easy to game and some people troll others with rude badges or wait until people add badges to their profile and then turn the images into porn. Very funny.
Then we thought a handshake method would be good, so that someone can give someone else part of their WoT, if they know them IRL.
And there are also ways to gamify the handshake at meetups, by using techniques that requiring seeing the same thing or connecting over Bluetooth, or whatnot.