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I'm not sure I agree or at least not fully. The other stuff is key to success, but not solely via the movement of money. Money will be involved, but the value must come from within, from other utility. I honestly think the biggest adoption will come with need for decentralized open-source infrastructure. Microsoft owns GitHub and one day they can turn it from haven to hell and then Nostr Git will be the perfect replacement. Payments will happen because people will realize that if something is free they are the product or they are in hands of a hobbyist who is providing with no guarantee whatsoever...

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The reason money movement, at least in my view, is critical to increasing usage is because people are too accustomed to having everything paid for on a rolling basis and being passive purchasers. Your last statement on payments is a hopeful outlook, but won't play out because most people don't and just won't care about "being a product" or supporting a hobbyist. There has to be an intrinsic and seamless shift towards changing that for a value and utility-based internet, yes, which comes from getting people to be directly involved in the transferring of money.

I do see infrastructure as a great way to get more people onboarded as well; I actually think Nostr should be primarily "marketed" towards product builders as a cheaper and more resilient architecture, rather than to media consumers as an uncensorable network. That also ties in with you utility and value driven point, with more builders bringing more utility and unlocking more value.

Money movement or payment is always a friction point plus the need for at least basic understanding of Bitcoin makes the friction at least 10 times stronger. People will figure it out, but only if there is something of value which can not be obtained easier elsewhere. It is going to be a challenge... The switch in the messaging is something we can fully agree on.