What is this on about? People with disabilities make up the vast majority of the Tech workforce.
Bunch of autists.
Keep DEI out of free markets. It’s bad for everyone.
Discussion
What does the phrase: Keep DEI(A) out of free markets mean to you?
DEI is racist and sexist by its very nature. It’s not comparable with free markets.
I don’t want access because I’m a women. I want access because I’m more competent than the rest.
Anything less is an insult.
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I can understand a personal preference of wanting access because you’re more competent without any consideration of your being a woman accounted for. Even so much as you saying you feel it would be an insult to you.
If you’re open, the statement: DEI is racist and sexist by its very nature. is a statement I’d encourage you to seek more understanding about.
I’ve taken a significant and deep dive into DEI.
It’s racist and sexist by its nature.
Diversity: When selecting based on sex and race you’re selecting based on sexism and racism.
This doesn’t enlarge the table, it targets specific characteristics and gives them a seat or ensure specific characteristics do not receive a seat.
Equity by nature is theft. None of us are equal, we never will be. By aiming for equity in outcomes your denying the absolute best of us their ability to thrive. It brings us all to the lowest common denominator and destroys society.
Inclusion: silly word that is covered by the first two.
I will never accept a seat because “I’m a woman.” I will confidently take the seat that I have the competence to sit and grow in.
I can appreciate what you’re saying.
Say in this scenario =>
You work as an interpreter. A deaf person also works as an interpreter and is applying for the same position you are.
From the outside looking in, what outcome would you want and what criteria would you use to determine the outcome?
The person that can most competently interpret whatever they’re supposed to interpret.
Period.
The key word is: competence
That’s it.
Meritocracy.
Period.
Can you do the job? Great? Better than everyone else that applies? Perfect.
Congrats, you have the job.
Not race, not sex, not identity.
Merit.
Okay 🕊️ The other vantage point is that the person whose deaf, 9 times out of 10, navigates society with more innate barriers; took more for them to get to that same interview in general.
Me, I’d bow out, knowing I could go 6 other places and get that same job.
I understand what you’re saying though and appreciate that you engaged in a way that was respectful while communicating your perspective.
" It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."
-Upton Sinclair
She's an DEI "activist" that's probably been promoting Marxist identity politics her whole life. By now she's made a career out of it. Good luck getting anything but smarmy responses.
But for most jobs, it's not just about competency in the role. Agreed that there's a minimum threshold of competence required but after that aren't there other factors that weigh in, including diversity?
I was indifferent towards the topic of inclusivity, till I read about how being full-abled is temporary and we all are at certain points of time disabled due to age/injury & systems that are designed with inclusivity in mind (even a specific category of disability) are beneficial to many kinds of users, say text-to-speech applications.
I'm no DEI expert but allowing for people to participate in society fully as themselves seems like a good thing for the community at large.
Sure.
Inclusivity is good.
But not at the cost of others.
Enlarge the table.
DEI generally isn’t used to do that.
At times, there are going to be trade-offs but I wouldn't say that's always the case 🤷♀️ But I get where you're coming from
“Not always the case.” Sure. .01% of the time it’s “not always the case” that DEI is sexist and racist.
I’ll concede that.
If you mean that to be non-racist, non-sexist, we should completely ignore the systemic, historical challenges & prejudices that impact different races/ genders differently, then you and I prescribe to different definitions of racism/sexism.
I don't think I (ie a random stranger on the internet) can fully convince you otherwise ☮️
Cool man. If you’re for institutions endorsing sexism and racism more power to you.
It will not end well, we already see it collapsing.