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They're related, but distinct.

Permissionlessness = anyone can participate without approval

Privacy = what you can see is hidden by design

Decentralization = no one controls consensus or can override independent verification

Monero has all three. Bitcoin has permissionlessness and decentralization, but not privacy baked in at the protocol level.

The confusion comes from treating lack of visibility as lack of decentralization. Those aren't the same thing.

Monero has thousands of nodes running globally—and that's just the ones running clearnet. Many more run behind Tor/I2P by design.
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Sat Nakamoto 1w ago

Less of visibility/verifiability => requires more trust? This should not be a trade off.

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Mynymbox - Privacy friendly hosting solutions 1w ago đź’¬ 1

Zero trust required you can verify anything

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Sat Nakamoto 6d ago

I think the original thread was about verifying that the network is “decentralized enough” whatever that means.

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Daedalus 6d ago đź’¬ 1

Less visibility doesn't mean less verifiability. Just because you can't understand the cryptography to verify there's no inflation bug doesn't mean it's not verifiable. Check https://www.moneroinflation.com/ for details.

I doubt you've manually checked each BTC transaction on chain adding up UTXOs to ensure no inflation bug either so you're trusting that someone has either way.

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Sat Nakamoto 6d ago

The original thread was about verifying the network is “decentralized enough”. I don’t think you read the thread.