so theres this conversation Sethforprivacy recorded with LN maxi STN 🙄

and #monero dev Kayabanerve ❤️

Seth apparently didn't upload it to the Optout feed and it only exists on Twitter.

https://x.com/sethforprivacy/status/1824430539828289755

can somebody with an twitter download the video?

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Does this link work? I don't have anywhere to upload it. Too big for nostr.build

https://api.x-downloader.com/v/7oEQ2AQYZ/xdownloader_pKtm4mJX9.mp4

yeah that worked great!

thank you.

Wow didn't know this existed. Gonna give it a listen.

I expect its just another hour of pedantic quibbling from nostr:nprofile1qqszrqlfgavys8g0zf8mmy79dn92ghn723wwawx49py0nqjn7jtmjagpz4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wchszyrhwden5te0dehhxarj9ekk7mf0qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uynmh4h

but I'm sure Luke did a good job of dispelling his bullshit.

I put it here if it's useful

https://v.nostr.build/bU40Yw4vF7lRErma.mp4

Listened to it yesterday. Luke laid out something I've seen you mention before about Lightning privacy being mostly unquantifiable and it makes sense. There are some theoretical, partial, and tangential data points you can gather, but it's mostly a question mark and asssumptions you must make.

I listened to it yesterday too. They both did a good job.

Unfortunately STN is not willing to actually talk trade-offs.

Luke was more gracious with him than he deserved and IS actually willing to talk about trade-offs.

So Luke will admit that Monero has weaknesses,

but STN will NOT do the same for LN.

My nickel psychological evaluation is that STN thinks he's smarter than everybody, so he thinks he justified to meme and lie to get people to do what he wants.

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