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I’m on a bit of a mission to remove all seed oils and ultra-processed foods (UPFs) from our baked goods at my family bakery.

Back in the 1960s (before I was born!), lard was the go-to fat—great for baking, readily available, and widely used. Then vegetarianism gained popularity, so we switched to palm oil, which, at the time, seemed like a perfect alternative due to its similarity to lard. However, concerns about deforestation and the impact on orangutans led us to adopt “sustainably sourced” palm oil—whatever that really means. It made us and our customers feel better, at least for a while.

As the movement to remove palm oil gathered pace, new products emerged, including palm-free baking fat, which is essentially a mix of rapeseed oil and emulsifiers. We transitioned a lot of our bread recipes that contained fat to this new product. Then I discovered Bitcoin, and from there, fell down the rabbit hole of learning about everything—including seed oils!

So now, we’re making the shift away from seed oil-based fats toward something better. We already use a lot of butter, but since we also cater to vegans, it’s not always a viable option. Olive oil, while great, can be too strong for certain breads. That led us to testing coconut fat, and I’ve been pleasantly surprised by how well it works—it doesn’t make everything taste like a piña colada! It’s a single-origin ingredient, and hopefully, a step up from rapeseed oil.

My hunch is that, in time, the market will shift again, and we’ll find ourselves back at lard. That might be a step too soon for our customers right now, but it’s where I see the best long-term solution.

The food industry is a fascinating place to work, but it has its fair share of bad practices that don’t always put customers first. At our bakery, we’ve always tried to go against the grain (pun intended!), and I’m incredibly grateful to the Bitcoiners who opened my eyes to better alternatives. I’ll do my best to steer our family business in this direction! 🫡

As far as I can see, palm oil has a better fatty acid profile than lard. The saturated fat to polyunsaturated ratio is higher.

The plant is a perennial so much better for the soil. I suspect that the demonisation of palm oil was a psyop to get us buying rapeseed & other more expensive oils.

Coconut seems to be a winner in terms of acceptability of both vegans & seed oil avoiders.

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That’s what it feels like. For me I have to navigate what customers want whilst also trying to stay ahead of the curve. Seed oils are not really on the radar in uk. I ask lots of people in the food world and they look at you like you are crazy! 😂 still so early. But as I feed my kids the bread, there is more of a reason to remove.

Just to clarify it’s not in all our breads just a few recipes. Most have no fat or butter.

I've pretty much given up eating commercial pastries. I don't even ask any more.

Things are shifting very quickly now. My mother recently started paying attention to seed oils (I've been talking about it for a decade lol).

Palm oil has been demonised (incorrectly IMO), so I wouldn't use it.

Coconut oil is the safest bet.

You might want to consider preparing a leaflet explaining what fat you use. It will save your servers having to come find you & ask. A little sticker on the window saying "Free from seed oils" will 100% pull people like me in.

Vegans can be loud.

Seed oil disrespectors tend to quietly go somewhere else (usually to eat from home).

That’s a good idea. We sell quite a lot of crisps as a meal deal so that might be hard to change up but I’m tackling the main products and the little ones will follow.

🤣🤯

I wouldn't worry about the crisps until your customers start shifting & asking the question.

My guess is that they're more concerned with price than their health right now.

I'm assuming you're talking about packets of crisps & not hot chips. Switching out your deep fryer fat with tallow or coconut oil is a no brainer imo. Saturated fat doesn't go rancid & so requires less frequent oil changes (cheaper in the long run).

Yeah packet of crisps. We don’t sell chips at the bakery.

I’m fully seed oil free at my supper clubs. 🫡