Your feed is dull because you don't follow the g-loaded people who interact heavily in the replies.

This will become more obvious once we get the boards and wiki working well, so that they all slowly disappear off the tweet-feed, and it grinds down to its base-level of vapid simpery.

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As soon as we have the ability to discuss particular topics with npubs that are interested in those particular topics, we're basically freed.

I'd probably still occasionally post a selfie or repost someone's release note, but I already find myself spending multliple days hanging out in the same thread and the threads spawned by those threads and it's like.... We need a board. 😂

Also gets rid of the need go follow and vet so many people because you can just go chat with whoever wants to chat about whatever you want to chat about. This means someone can onboard with zero follows and just join a convo that looks interesting.

Hashtags are a hamfisted attempt to recreate boards and it's like... just create the damn boards.

What's the closest we have to boards right now?

Communities?

The ideal for me is:

1. Write post about, let's say "how having more kids makes women live longer"

2. Select the communities/group chats/forums I want to share that post too

3. Let anyone with access to any of these communities reply, read-only for everyone else

4. Make these communities fully forkable

Communities, but they don't work well because the moderators has to approve every post, rather than every npub.

someone didn't think to make that a toggle? seems very laborious, more like an art gallery curator than a discussion forum

I even had to approve my own posts. 😂

And communities aren't real boards unless you have a board UI. Like, there are 3 different communities with the same topics, sometimes, and they can't find each other.

If there are 3 communities called "relays", they should be listed together in the UI, so that an npub can decide which ones he wants to follow. And they should be able to merge and fork or change ownership.

Wiki's can help solve this too.

On the page about "Relays" I want to see:

- wiki entries

- hashtags linked to this subject

- forums (group chats) that discuss this

- kind-1's about Relays

- articles about Relays

- ...

In short, displaying wiki entries is only the start

Yeah, I just had the same thought, since the Wiki has a composite page for each topic, that could serve as a jumping-off point.

Nostr allows for complex workflows because you can have a gazillion views and constellations of the same data set.

Yup!

I especially need these kind of pages for onboarding.

As in, I don't want to let users read my boring text about what relays are or make some sub-standard video about it.

I want to link to a Relay wiki that let's users discover what they are in whatever way they want.

For some that might be watching Instagram-like stories about it, for others it might be joining a forum full of golang geeks.

that's "gophers" to you ser 😛

Oops 😹

I'm clearly more the "watching Stories" type 😜

Yup indeed 🤦.

Group chats are the way.

Just have to clearly separate the "chat" from the "forum" side of things.

Chat is where you say GM.

Forum is where you start serious conversation threads.

I could imagine each forum having an associated chat. The chat then functions like the General Topics thread, that forums usually have at the top.

💯 got designs for this nearly done.

Do you know of any other app that combines both of these btw?

Nope.

have you looked at stacker news? they do a reddit style format.

Yup, they do reddit with sats.

1. Another silo

2. Sats as the only option (for interaction, algo, access, ...)

3. Their ugly UI as the only option

4. They will rug you

yeah I wasn't a fan of it either.

I get why they exist and have success (for now at least).

But there's very little inspiration / innovation there for me.

plus the reddit style trolls moved in long ago

There's already a Nostr client like that, called Oddbeans.

I'm talking more about old-school bulletin boards. An improvement on communities.

Anyone using this one

https://zapddit.com/feed

And, like, let's talk about release notes.

Most of the people you want to see it don't see it and lots of people who see it are like, whatever that is, some software thingy...

So, you have to repost and repost and repost... 🙄

Just give us a Nostr Releases board to lurk on and basta.

When you say you already find yourself hanging out in the same thread, what do you mean exactly and which clients are you doing this on?

Asking because it sounds cool!

You usually can't see the busiest threads on trendlists. They're just some never-ending discussion some small account started and more more people strolled into.

Is this a hard algo to implement maybe?

As in, does it take significant computation to crawl through all those replies on replies?

Still I'd pay for that compute if it can give the deepest recent convo-threads (especially with WoT).

nostr:npub1nxa4tywfz9nqp7z9zp7nr7d4nchhclsf58lcqt5y782rmf2hefjquaa6q8 , just an idea 😜

I don't know. They all say they check for this, but it doesn't seem to work.

GM threads going deeper than I could ever imagine then lol 😂

They're like impromptu chatrooms, so probably. 🤷‍♀️

I guess Odell's "GM" is the equivalent of "Odell has entered the chat." 😂

My thread about GM has them. 😂

But, yeah, I see stuff trending that has only 8 total replies. Others have 80 and don't trend. 🤷‍♀️

Maybe it's because I write to small and private relays. 🤔

Lucky for me, I have the most interesting people in my feed, super intelligent people like you 😊🫂

I think you're interesting, too, tho, but I tend to want to talk about particular topics on here, so you'd probably get more interaction from me if you were hanging out on a gardening board and I'm sperging out on gardening stuff again and want to discuss that for 5 days straight.

I do the socializing stuff on SimpleX, I guess, so when I'm on here, I just want to binge-chat about something specific.

And those are interesting topics in themselves and worth reading through. 😁

I sort of suck at the real socializing stuff and influencing, and increasingly find myself ignoring the normal OP feed and just hanging out in my mentions.

That's why I like Freerse, as it has a nice interface for "continuing the conversation". Like, I can reply to an article, comment on a git commit, highlight part of a wiki page, etc. and then switch to Freerse to respond to responses. And then other npubs see the conversation or I tag them and it's like 20 people discussing English poetry in the 1700s, or something. 😂

That is so fun!

Also, I don't care about what's trending overall. Usually inane blah blah or people squabbling.

I care about where the most active/recent discussion is about some topic I care about.

We're trying to solve that with DVMs and filters, but that's actually just something you can sort for, on a topic board.

can you say more about boards? where?

We're rethinking communities.

Came here to vapidly simp. I dont look at just notes I prefer notes & replies.

Yeah, I can't do just notes.

I feel bad because you aren't simping for me and now I've got FOMO.

I stopped simping when your pfp changed to sepia, I am a such a sucker for blue eyes and intelligence that puts me in my place. You could Try JOMO my wife bagged me before she knew what she was doing, now she's taking out the garbage and making her own flowers for the table lol

LOL I actually do a lot of monochrome to downplay the eyes and look more subdued.

I am wearing shades